posted Thu, 04/18/2013 - 09:54
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i would like some of your experience with torem for pct. my last cycle i used nolva and clomid and it made me feel like a sensitive little girl. i wanted to get peoples experience using torem and exactly how to run it. what should i run with it. my next cycle will be test, npp and var to end with.
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cbrant10I ran a test only cycle and used Torem. It worked great. After one week my balls started hurting so I knew it was working. I only had one week of that bad feeling that normally takes place during pct. I ran like this 120/90/60/30
Terephthalic Pt...I've ran one cycle and I used Tor, Clomid, and Aromasin in my PCT.
I ran 60/60/60/60 50/50/50/50 and 12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5 respectively.
My PCT was easy peasy. Never lost motivation to go to the gym. Only got a little sad, did cry a couple times about a previous girlfriend, but it was only 2 or 3 times in the whole 4 weeks.
Never lost the ability to get a boner. Sex drive might have gone down a little bit, but I didn't have a girlfriend at the time and I still masturbated pretty much every day so it wasn't extremely noticeable if I did experience it.
I did my bloods about 4 days after PCT and my testosterone levels were higher than when I started my cycle and my LH and FSH were very high. I doubt my test levels stayed higher, but I honestly feel no different than when I started my cycle so my test levels probably went back to normal or maybe a little bit lower, but not enough to make a difference.
But I'm 23 and the younger you are the better your HPTA is able to recover as long as you're outside of puberty. I don't know how old you are, but in my experience my PCT was pretty damn good.
Cycle was Test E 630mg/week for 12 weeks and Var at 100mg a day for 8 weeks.
torem is ideal with a nor19 because it helps with prolactin. i run it at 60/60/30/30
do you run it alone or do you add aromasin, nolva or clomid or any combo of those?
and thanks i didnt realize it helped with prolactin. how effective is it with prolactin? if i get the deca dong can it be used during my cycle?
torem only blocks the ability for estro to effect tissue, its most common use is for women with non specific estro related breast tumors. because it blocks aromatiziation in tissue. it does raise lh and fsh thus helping with getting the test up and going, some report higher than normal test levels during its use. remeber it does not stop aromatization, test will still convert to estro in ya, s o you need something to kill the estro, aromasin is the best option for it, as its a estro suicide drug. meaning it binds to estrogen and makes it useless. torem will not effect water retention either. its a great PCT but it has its down side, it should always be used in conjunction with other things, aro and and clomid are the best option. running it a 60mg through PCT is probably the best option for most.
thanks for sharing some knowledge with me. its great to learn about the stuff you are about to put into your body. i really appreciate it.
Terephthalic Pt...Toremifene definitely does raise FSH and LH levels. It binds antagonistically in the hypothalamus (specifically the pituitary gland) which tricks the body into thinking it has low estrogen and stimulates LH and FSH hormone production to bring the body back into homeostasis.
It can be run alone, however because it also binds in the bones, breasts, and uterus (lol we don't have to worry about that) it's not as strong as clomid and would have to be run higher.
Although I'd just suggest running some clomid along with it, but clomid is pretty bad for you so I prefer to keep that dose as low as possible.
thanks, good info.