Warm Red Patch Below Injection Site
Hi Bros,
I know there are several posts about this onsite, and I've read a lot of them, but I'd like to believe that all situations are different, and maybe mine isn't so bad...wishful thinking lol.
Anyway, I injected into my left delt for the first time three days ago. It was pharma grade Test P that I've used before, and on this cycle have pinned it into my glute and quad, once each without problems. I've actually never had any trouble with this Test P aside from some mild PIP on occasion.
After the first day, I was getting some mild PIP. On day 2 a 3-4" red patch appeared about 3" below the injection site. By day 3 the redness seemed to subside a bit, but it had grown larger and moved further down my arm. It is warm to the touch, is a little sore, itches, but not much swelling, pain and no fever.
I am very thorough when I pin. I swab the bottle stopper, the injection site, and swap needles after drawing. I also shower and exfoliate before each injection. And as I said above, have never had any issues like this before with this particular product. I have had soreness and knots that moved away from the injection site before, but never accompanied by redness. And there is a definite knot localized in the red patch.
I fully intend to keep monitoring it. What can you guys tell me about these symptoms? Could it just be inflammation from injecting into virgin muscle, or should I be concerned about infection?
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If it has gone down a lot then you probably have nothing to worry about. give it a few more days and Im sure it will be gone. stay away from that spot for a bit. let us know how it turns out. good luck bro
You need to mark each side of the patch with a pen or marker. Not a permanent one. Dir. And see if it spreads you. If it is then got to the doc. Sounds like cellulitis to me. You Gould post a pic.
It has cleared up considerably since yesterday. The redness is almost all gone, the swelling is down, and it doesn't itch anymore. I think I'm good!
Thanks everyone for your replies and advice. I took some Benadryl and went to bed last night, and it is absolutely getting better. The redness is down, less soreness, the knot is going away, but still really itchy. I think I'll keep taking the Benadryl until it's all gone. You guys are the best!
I had the same thing happen (minus the itchiness!) the first time I shot my right delt...I was a little clumsy using my left hand and ended up with a stiff, warm mass about two to three inches below the spot I shot. I used a warm compress a few days and took ibuprofen...it was gone in about a week!
yea bro thats me right now. definitely messed up and moved the needle around a whole lot when i pinned it wed. and its pretty much same description
Thanks guys. I'm on some Benadryl now and heading to bed. I guess I'll see how it is by morning. BTW, how much do you take for this? I just took the standard dose of 2xpills.
RustyhookerStandard should do fine. Benedry will make ya sleep hard too. Lol
Yes it does. I went out like a light last night and I don't think I moved once haha.
RustyhookerBenedryl. Sounds like reaction to the carrier with your "itchy" description. Keep eye on it of course
X2. I agree. I get this periodically. Almost like the gear is inflaming the surrounding tissue and traveling. Benadryl knocks it out. Motrin is an anti-inflammatory as well. Take both (if you're not allergic).
And please, post here. I need to know what whiteNcrispy is about.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/off-topic/username-meanings
Haha, nice, I'll post there for sure, but if you click my profile, there's a phrase that kind of gives it away. I think I'll run down and grab some Benadryl right now. But, do you think this possible even though it's not affecting my glutes or quads?
You're reacting to something. Maybe the carrier, a solvent or maybe just something went wrong or was contaminated during injection. Could be anything. But beny will knock it out.
Cool, heading to Walgreen's now. Thanks bro!
don't see it being a reaction to any part of the gear being as he only had this happen in his delt and no where else.
RustyhookerMy delt looked like i jammed in synthol on my first delt pin. Same brand I'd been running for several Weeks then was itchy as well.
Kraken May have it correct! Get between muscle its irritating and travels. "itchy" is some form of reaction though. Hope he heals fast!
AnonI agree. without even reading the subtext to the thread I know what this is.
You missed the muscle, maybe shot between it. the reason you have redness below is because it's traveling down your arm. Probably a little warm, hard and looks splotchy towards the end of the redness.
It's all good bro, I've done this a few times myself. Mostly when shooting tris or delts.
Sweet answer , I just did this to my self in delt it's my 1st cycle . Feel much better with your info
does this mean the shot was wasted or didnt/wont be fully utilized if this happens?
Not wasted, no. The body will still absorb the fluids in the interstitial spaces via the lymphatic system. The absorption will be much slower this way and will, therefore, interact with the surrounding tissues longer. Hence the discomfort and redness.
Hmmm, not sure how I missed the muscle, but it's good to know others have experienced similar symptoms. That puts my mind to rest quite a bit. Thanks!
1jakd_hipyProbably just a bad stick, I wouldn't worry unless you aquire a fever
when it happened to me, it was one delt. then next time pinning, it happened to the other delt the same way. kinda resembled cellulitis.
RustyhookerAfter seeing many cellulitus pix.....aaack!! Hella scarey stuff right there!
1jakd_hipyI'm "on" year round and have it happen pretty regularly usually due to me being lazy or not paying attention, in fact just last night I was pinning my lat and watching tv, next thing I know the needle has slipped out and today is red, swollen and itchy
AnonROFL!
Bro I did that before, same place doing the same damn thing!
Not paying attention, doing my 2 a day rotation and before I knew it I wasn't even in the muscle anymore. You know what they say about complacency
1jakd_hipyYeah, I was pinning your gear oddly enough, it slipped out and I switched lats for the last mL and I can't even tell I pinned in the other lat. And yes complaceny can be a pain in the ass (literally in this business)
hmmm... well, there ya have it
did you say you pinned your lats while sitting on the couch watching tv?
1jakd_hipyNo, I was standing, if I didn't have to get up to get the vials I would probably do it sitting.
i had the very same thing happen to me before. i chalked it up as not changing my drawing needle like i should have. but, i also, never pinned my delts again afterwards.
could be that some of the oils and solvents weren't dispersed properly into the bloodstream or lymphatic system from the interstitial spaces post injection; therefore, reacting with the surrounding tissues until finally being absorbed. could be something to do with the injection technique for this particular muscle group.
I always swap my needle after drawing. I was spot on with sanitation. It does have me a little freaked out. I couldn't finish lifting tonight because I was so distracted with it, plus my BP is starting to elevate after the first week on, and it's messing with my head lol. I doubt I'll ever inject delts again either. This sucks!
what's you stats?
age
weight
bf%
and what are you running?
if you don't mind me asking...
No I don't mind. Most of it's in my profile, but:
Age 34
Weight 250
bf% not really sure, but around 15%
Here's the link to my cycle.
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/wcs-16-week-strength-cycle