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+ 2 The cure for decreased cardio output on trenbolone.

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Trens causes rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.

Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport acrossmembranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipidrelease, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.

Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator).  In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made.

Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.

Because trenbolone causes the rate of production of prostaglandins to rise, the corresponding rise in Leukotrienes causes inflammation in the lungs such as wheezing and shortness of breath.

Singulair (Montelukast), a common allergy medication, is a Leukotriene Modifier. It blocks the Leukotriene receptors in your lungs, eliminating trenbolone sides such as wheezing and shortness of breath.

Put simply, taking Singulair, or certain other Leukotriene modifiers will block the tren effects on cardio.

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Good post
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mwagner630's picture

i actually just saw a tren post about it being a bronchiorestrictor the other day and wondered if singulair and advair would be the answer to this, as ive seen so many people have issues with the lungs, and such on tren. i have serious allergies and pollen related asthma, so i have tons of singulair and advair at home. shits amazing, thanks for answering my question i never got to ask. +1 for this one

TetsFL's picture

@safetyfirst21: if you look around, there is another post about why you don't want to take clen, albuterol, or a similar beta2 adrenergic agonist with tren. Read it last night. Too much adrenal stress. I am wondering if corticosteroids would work though as they're anti inflammatory. Though that would be closer to treating a symptom and not fixing the cause I guess.

Ghosting's picture

thanks for this post!!!!

dpincushion's picture

I have got a few PMs re: will taking a leukotriene modifier reduce the benefits of tren....imo no it wont.

PGE2 and PGF2a seem to be the two prostaglandin that exert the desirable tren effects. PGE2 increases protein degradation where as PGF2a increases protein synthesis. Muscle hypertrophy is usually achieved by an increase in protein synthesis as well as a proportionately smaller increase in degradation. The simultaneous release of both PGE2 and PGF2a creates this condition.

Although I am not entirely sure, it seems that cysteinyl leukotrienes LTC4, LTD4 and LTE4 are mainly responsible for bronchial constriction. Montelukast only blocks the actions of LTC4, LTD4 and LTE4 at the CysLT1 receptor in the lungs and bronchial tubes.

Both PGE2 and PGF2a are dervied from arachidonic acid via the PGH2 synthase pathway (cox-1 or cox-2 referred to above as the cyclooxygenase pathway) while LTC4, LTD4 and LTE4 are derived via the lipoxygenase pathway.

So (i think) all the tren benefits would remain, minus the effect on cardio.

malikiie's picture

sounds good bro we need more comments like this on here. I will be sure to give it a try next time i am
at the gym as tren tends to kill my cardio extra bad