E2 Crash after aromasin
Took aro for 5 weeks (12.5mg EOD) and started to see the sides: achey joints, depression and loss of libido. Dropped the aro and I'm just taking nolva (just started my 3rd week of PCT). Joints are feeling better and depression/anxiety is a lot better too, but the libido isn't totally back. Can this be more mental than physiological?
I realize I took it for way too long, but was given advice by countless sources on here to take until my PCT was over. I now realize I never needed it for a test-e only cycle.
Went for blood work the other day, but it was only after 2 days of no aromasin. Gonna go again in 4 weeks when I'm 2 weeks off my PCT.
Should I run my nolva for an additional 2 weeks after the 4 weeks at 20/day?
Someone help me out here.
Thank you!
Edit: Originally wrote 9 weeks, but it's 5 weeks.
Also, here is an update of what I've done up until this point:
Week 1-5: Test E @ 500mg/wk
Week 3-7: Aromasin @ 12.5mg/EOD
Week 6-7: Nolvadex @ 40/ED
Just started Nolva @ 20 yesterday, but now plan to drop it, too.
Stopped my test cycle very short due to external issues with my life, so don't judge the length.
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Should I bother picking up some liquid prami??
People can guide u based on what dose they see that the average user needs for a certain amount of test.. but in the end it is an individual thing. U might need less, way less, or even way more than what is recommended to u. Asking for advice will give you a starting point, but AI dose is one of those things u have to experiment with to know the appropriate dose that keeps ur estro in check.
I was also curious, what TEST E dose were u running?
Good move on getting bloods. U should've maybe went for clomid too in that PCT, I find it works for libido better than nolva. If I were u, I wouldn't continue with the nolva. U can try some OTC stuff like Horny Goat Weed maybe, while u wait for libido to be normal again.
Best of luck, don't stress it too much ;)
I was running 500mg/wk but for a very short time (5 weeks) - had to stop due to some external issues. Waited the 2 weeks started PCT (Nolva 40/40/20/20). I just started week 3 of nolva yesterday. The entire time I was also taking aro @ 12.5mg EOD which is really light compared to other logs I've read.
Anymore info on nolva suppressing libido?
Thank you,
1) Is this ur first cycle? Judging as u don't know much AI u need for that dose of TEST E ran solo, I assume it is. If so, hard luck on ending a first cycle like that.
2) Just to be clear, u continued Arom through PCT also? And when did u start experiencing the low estro sides?
First of all, if ur arom is legit, I wouldn't call 12.5mg EOD light at all for 500mg test e IMO. My friend had mild pubertal gyno on one side, he is sensitive to estro sides, yet he ran that much arom for 700mg Sus, 30mg DBol.
Second, I do not see any reason to continue Arom through PCT, especially for a test only cycle!
Third, Test E needs time to build up in ur system, so it might have been better to start the Arom 2/3 weeks in. U'll get better at this with experience.
From what I recall, Nolva if taken alone (by a male off cycle) increases Test values a bit. But this does not necessarily mean it increases libido. People usually have mixed experiences with this. However, it's usually a positive experience only with Clomid regarding libido.
Yes, first cycle.
I started the arom from week 3 @12.5mg/EOD. Ran that for a total of 5 weeks (not 9) and nolva for only 2 weeks so far.
Started noticing bad depression last weekend which totally went away and anxiety has decreased significantly as well. The decrease in libido is very recent.
As of tomorrow, no more nolva.
Personally I would just wait it out, and take natural remedies for libido meanwhile. U should bounce back to normal soon, hopefully.
U should get more responses and advice from other users regarding ur issue soon.
Good luck!
Nolva is a libido killer also. So its not going to improve an already depressed libido. I use aromasin at 6.25 mg everyday after week 4 of my test cycle. I still crashed at week 10. My aro dose is now 6.25 mg Every Other Day or I can get away with 12.5 mg every other day. Either way I can't take it everyday. That's fine....at least I know. You have to find your own sweet spot by bloodwork and side effects.
HCG kicker for your testosterone and proviron for your adrogens should have you feeling better.