posted Wed, 03/06/2013 - 11:53
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i'm sick from tren?
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i banged 100mg yesterday and 100mg today ,,,my question is i've been sick at my stomach throwing up since yesterday....could anyone PLEASE help me? i don't want to hurt myself or am i just sick with the stomach flu??? this is the first time i ever tried it also.
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I agree with SDM! Slow your roll. Maybe you just got sick totally unrelated to gear (even tho I think the ratios are way off). Eating gas station sushi maybe?
this has happened to the guy before. When he was running test.
gymnutyep that was me. but i have been splitting up my doses 2x a week since then. and i have had no problems since. it seemed too odd that the next day after pinning tren i got sick......yes maybe a stomach bug, or is it the tren? it's been 4 days and i'm still sick so i think it's not the tren ...
Just stop the cycle do a pct and start over at a beginner cycle until you can figure it out or stay sick after all its just a upset stomach.
Well then he should be looking at that first.
Way I see it is we run one compound at a time to see how our body reacts to each compound. You have seen this happen before.You should look back in the past. http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/flu-like-side-... Why blame it on tren when when it happened before you was using tren. Look at the oil the solvents and test.
roughneck12X2 Plus one. Eo is most common cause of flu like symptoms. Any test can cause test flu. Tren IMO is not causing flu. Tren cough, not tren flu.
Where do you get this stuff bro? EO MAY give certain people allergic reactions. Just like guaicol does to me. But to say EO is most common cause of flu like symptoms? Bro EO is still VERY rare in this game. Yes some sources have it but most don't use it.
roughneck12Yes nitti thanks for the correction, in some. Eo is even labeld by the source cause many can't handel pip, and are allergic IMO. This is talk amongst many top chemist.
EO to me equals smooth as shit.
EO to me equals WTF(body doesnt like it) lol
roughneck12Thanks brother ,some reacted bad to it.
roughneck12Me to. I don't get pip.
roughneck12See this is what kills tren. Not understanding it. A gram of test a week. Test sould be more like 300 mg a week. Tren should be main compound. Another problem is you running a long ester test ,with stops you from adjusting it on the fly to find sweet spot test:tren ratio. I disagree with pin tren A eod ,pin ed at 50mg will give better blood levels and less sides. Im not bashing you cause I'm no better. But you sould have used research and did home work.
gymnuti like the fact of 50mg eod. i'll try that also, i've used for atleast 10 years and took a plunge and tried it. i'll see what gains i get, and if they are alright, i'm happy. if not i'll stick with my prop.
On your first run with tren you're running 1g of test? Why? Most people get hugely elevated sides when running high test with tren, we tend to use it purely to keep libidos functioning. Without trying to be a prick, seems like you should have done your homework a bit more thoroughly before starting tren. If you get it wrong, you're in for a tough time.
Too much test, too much tren, slow your roll.
gymnuteverything is good now. 1000mg test e hell yes i do it. dramatic gains. everyone reacts different to substances, i got great genetics so i take advantage of it. unless anyone can prove me wrong , then i am doing it right? don't you think?
When running tren, I see no point whatsoever running 1g of test. I'd done a decade in this game before i touched tren, then my first tren cycle was 50mg prop and 50mg tren ed.
Im with you on knowing your own body all the way, but you haven't run tren before have you? How do you know what dramatic gains you're going to get from the test in this case? A huge %age will aromatise and just be wasted. It's a different game when the tren train is involved.
Not trying to be confrontational here, but I reiterate what I said before, for a first tren running you're potentially going to end up in a world of hurt in a few weeks.
gymnuti can't agree with you more. tren was basically a test run to see what results i would get by adding it. people have been tellin me for years to try it, so i did. i understand that 50 mg ed and 1000mg of test i wont notice the difference with or without tren... i figured what the hell and tried...
You gotta find your levels mate, I understand. Just trying to show you the levels you need could save you some shitty sides and a bit of cash. It's a tough compound, don't take risks with it!
Keep safe.
roughneck12X2 low test ,high tren = less sides.
in some. When you ran high test low tren what sides did you have more of?
roughneck12Aggression, anger, that I never had before earlier in cycle. Prop 50-75ed ,tren 75-125 ed,and mast p 75 mg ed . Started at Tp 75 , tren A 50 eod , mp 75 eod . Once first wk pasted no sides ,and I knew I could tolerate it. I move test down tren up slowly. Goal was to check tren tolerance ,if good get tren over test. Some like 2 to 1 tren:test I go a lil higher on test are libido is killed. Really tren I only get low cardio and insomnia. Lowered BP to better than before. Prami put me to sleep ,albuterol brought cardio up. I found my spot at 50 :80 test to tren . Mast stayed 75ed anything less is a waste IMO.
I'm not sure I understand any of this. That last line is pretty clear. When I use cut blends I run 50tren/50 mast/50 test p. I don't think it's a waste of mast. But that's just one mans opinion.
roughneck12I know cause I'm not educated.
roughneck12I find it to be hypocritical to tell a man to research and study ,then when he dose he's called out for what he learns. Said it's repeated info. Got 100 noobs just like me running tren ,but I was crucified for it. Because I posted my findings. Lol.
gymnuthell thats exactly what i did...RESEARCH first! i'm 37 and compete strongman, i hit the test and halotest and dbol all together at high doses. i get the best results at high mgs. i just wanted to see if the tren was makin me sick or did i have a stomach bug...as far as a noob? yes to this board but not with devil's blood. good point roughneck!
roughneck12People can offer advice. If you choose not to take it that on the one running it. I done notting wrong ,but they blast me for it. With insults. Share your experience ,yea were. get wonken up at 3 am being falsey accused of bad info. I'm run what I run , I don't promote it. But IMO people are hypocrite's . I'm tried of getting degraded. I'm always told I can't understand any of this. Now if staying my opinion gets me banned are hit ,fuck it I'm really pissed . All I do is hide . Then as soon as I come to form's, I'm a bad influence. If you ain't walk in my shoes I don't think you can judge me. Brother I say what I feel. Take to specks out your eyes before you try taking them out you brother eyes so you can see clear. now who every takes offense . Sorry this is me that kid, that works and raise his to daughter's by his self and beat cancer. I that kid. Thanks brother for realizing my point.
26 and running tren you should be crucified. As far as the noobs running tren there is a lot of us that try to prevent it. Can not save everyone but I think I have stopped a few kids from doing dumb stuff. Most of the guys talking shit about kids running cycles is people that have made the same mistake or has learned from those people. As a young man especially one on gear always step back and look to see if you are the one that is wrong vs instant defend yourself. Also I have been on this site over a year and I can not tell you how many kids I "crucified" over running tren or another cycle early.Its where I got most of my karma.I stick with cycles I know about beginners. Its not about calling someone out and making them look stupid its about getting someone to cycle correct or not at all. I have followed Nitti around a while and when he speaks I listen. I am not saying that because he is a mod. I would say the same thing way be for that title came about. That guy will help anyone out and always has great advice. If you have a problem with him calling you out then you probable will find the problem is you if you look hard enough.
roughneck12You know notting about me. Are my life brother. I have no problem with nitti. I'm 27 in a few months and am being put on trt for low test at 30 from cemo ext cancer. So what I run I have notting to loss.Now brother do what you do and prove me wrong.
nothing you said has anything to do with running tren so early.
roughneck12You got this bro ,I'm done.
lol trens a bitch hard to control your emotions.
roughneck12400-600 mg a week is effective range to most people who run mast. Works for me . I wont suggest tren ,but I'm not lieing .
oh so during your tren cycle you moved your tren and test levels all around.
How did you understand that
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roughneck12Zewi,cdaddy, set me right. Dnate did my diet.
roughneck12Imo zewi and cdaddy help a lot regardless of what others feel. Dnate is good at diets, and training.
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roughneck12Yes sir, to find my spot. But once dailed them in it was good.Know when I go in to cycle I'm on point. It was my first run with tren. I had job research and brothers help along the way. I'm not advance like you. But I know what I was going in to. Ai,pct, prolactin protection, all vitamins. B6 also 300mg x2.
lol I am not advanced at all but I have ran a few tren cycles. I have ran it several ways including without test. My favorite tren cycle would be 600mg test E pr week 75-100mg tren A ED. There was plenty of sides but the cycle went great. Tren A @ 75-100mg pr day and prop @ 50mg pr day is good too. Still get sides but I would say there is a little less sweat. The only way I have found to stop most sides is run tren very low. like 200mg pr week. I use3d to say the ratio thing to but I am starting to rethink it. I do see running less test to tren because they go after same receptors but thats it.
roughneck12Nice brother, a lot say higher test are equal gains are great,also side. Im open to everyone cause everyone reacts different. I just like ed pining are I feel a crash .Lol nice information brother.
Obama BlowsI'm guessing you're using Tren A. Upset stomach, tren cough, night sweats, etc. Lotsa shitty side effects from this stuff. That's why you never run it longer than 8 weeks. If this is your first go 'round with tren you should cut back to 100mgs EOD at least. Personally I'd say 75mgs EOD for the first week and then adjust your dose according to results, side effects, etc. And you've got some test in your cycle as well, right?
angusFeeling sick to your stomach is perhaps the most frequently reported side effect of any pharmacological compound regardless of its administration. Vomiting takes it to a whole new level, and if you are vomiting at about the 2 hour mark after "banging" (as you put it), then it is most certainly your gear. It might not be the Tren, it could be the oil, it could be a lot of things. The most prudent thing for you to do is discontinue use or at very least cut way back. 100mg/ed is too much for your first time. You have to work up to that shit.
gymnuti think you are correct......i took roxi's oils back in december and was bangin 1000mg every 5 days..i got sick for about 2 1/2 days everytime. so i ended up doing 500mgs every 3rd day, and i wasn't sick anymore... my concern was is tren good for me or not.....and yes i do get shitty reactions to oils sometimes. i didn't think it was the tren as i was only at 100mg ED.......thanx for the input, and if theres anything else tell me....if i have to get rid of it it's no loss i'll just go back to test prop.
angusThere is so much wrong with what you are telling me that I don't know where to start. You really need some guidance about AAS, I'm not trying to piss you off but if you were on a gram of prop every 5 days in December then you couldn't have hade a proper PCT, nor do you EVER do prop E3D. That indicates to me that you need some help with what you are doing bro. Right now if you insist on staying with the Tren at the very least cut it in half. But better yet would be 25mg/ed until you see how you react to it. And hopefully we're talking about Tren A.
gymnutyes i'm talkin about tren A........im on a gram of enanthate every 5 days split into two times at 500mgs. as far as prop goes do 100 mg eod. i will wait 2 days before hittin tren A again...... i'm very into high doses i get the best results.......what i'm on now is test E 500mgs every 3 days. 50 mg dbol for one more week. and halotestin 10 mg eod. i just finished test prop. a couple days ago, and that's why i wanted to try tren A. i've been in the game shit since 2001. i know what i'm doing it's just i never used tren, i don't like to change my bulk cycles, but i did this one time in 12 years.
angusI'm a little confused but that's not anything new. Your original question was is the Tren making you sick. In all probablility YES, and you should cut back or discontinue as a result. Good luck.
gymnuti didnt write that correct...lol......i take 500mgs of test enanthate every 3rd day. so yes 1000mg test E split 500mgs on monday 500mgs thursday. and yes i'm taking tren off for 3 days to see what happens.