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So I've been rock climbing a lot recently, and muscle/tendon recovery time has been holding me back a lot. If I were to start a light to moderate cycle to boost my recovery time and strength, what steroids would you recommend? I know Anavar could be good, due to its ligament healing properties.

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Alright guys...I think I've come to a decision. Anavar. It's mild, so I'll be able to start off with a weaker cycle, and then move on to Test E if I like how Anavar works. It promotes lean gains, which is excellent for rock climbing (I don't want too much water weight). Also, it promotes general tissue repair, which is great considering the skin on my hands and my ligaments need as much help as they can get. What do you guys think?

Catalyst's picture

No oral only cycles. Waste of your time and money. EVERY cycle needs a test base.

ppk's picture

But if Anavar has such a low hepatotoxicity and doesn't have a significant effect on the HPTA axis when dosed properly, and PCT is used, what's the difference? I would be spending like $100 bucks for insignificant gains?

Catalyst's picture

The main thing being you'll be unable to keep any of the little gains you make. So basically you're wasting your money.

As has been said numerous times, if you're going to run a cycle run 12 weeks of test e or c only.

ppk's picture

I hear you. I've been reading other literature and forums and have been exposed to a number of Anavar only cycles (not counting PCT). Still, of all the forums I'm on I trust this one the most. I understand that you guys have told me to start with Test a few times, and that it's taking me a while to make my decision (actually I've casually read about steroids for years before this), but I take this decision very seriously. I understand the implications it could have on my health.

What would you recommend for dosage? 500 mg/wk?

Catalyst's picture

Oral only cycles are an utter waste of time and money. That's the unfortunate thing about the internet, any ody can give advice irrespective of if they know what they're talking about!

Go with 500mg/week, split into two shots of 250mg. One monday morning, the second thursday night.

Make sure you've got your AI and PCT gear all sorted out.

If you need any more help, feel free to FR and PM me, lets make sure you're set up properly ok?

ppk's picture

Thank you guys. I am thinking over my first cycle now. I'm torn though. I might go with Test E, Primobolan, or EQ. I'm thinking EQ because it seems to have everything I'm looking for - lean gains, vascularity, increased appetite, low sides, increased RBC, more energy. It just seems perfect for my needs.

Catalyst's picture

You don't just run EQ on its own. Cycles need a test base.

If you are going to run a cycle, you run test e or c.

Catalyst's picture

I do a bit of climbing, wife is a NICAS instructor and my daughter climbs at county level.

The last thing you need is bulk, take it from a 240lb guy that has to do twice the amount of work to haul himself up.

AAS and climbing aren't friends. This isn't your solution.

ppk's picture

I know you're right. It's just the vain part of me wants a much better physique in order to attract higher quality women.

gatorbits's picture

Exactly
Go for it
Just start off with test E or C only for your first run
Read read and read and order all your pct gear first

In the moment strength to climb mountains really fast:
Cheque drops
Halo
Dianabol
Anadrol
Tren
Test prop
Anavar
All the explosive strength juice that are pretty hard on the body too

You say you want to do anabolics for a better physical condition
That's a popular reason
Just start with a test only run first and do alot of research before you jump into a cycle
These are drugs we are talking bout
Drugs have side effects

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ppk's picture

Thanks man, this is a really motivating post.

Catalyst's picture

You'll develop a different type of physique from climbing, very lean etc., i know some top level climbers in amazing condition. Not all women like lots of bulk, my wife says I'm too big!

Take it from me I get some strange looks when the see someone my size climbing! Bottom line is its kind of one or the other. If you're serious about your climbing, don't do it.

ppk's picture

Well I'm already in pretty good shape. I'm doing V5+ and 5.11c now. I just wish I had a six pack, bigger pecs, bigger biceps....y'know, typical stuff women go gaga over.

Catalyst's picture

You can achieve all of that without AAS. Just work hard in the gym and up your protein intake.

ppk's picture

The weightlifting gym or the rock climbing gym?

Catalyst's picture

Both, but I'm mainly referring to lifting.

Gerbil's picture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apKvJME8bpw

You can achieve it in either.

ppk's picture

Yeah that's why I was concerned about using test e or c for rock climbing

Gerbil's picture

First cycle should always be test e or c but it isnt renowned for joint improvement in fact the opposite is true.

ppk's picture

Never cycled before, Gerbil.

Gerbil's picture

Cycle history?

ppk's picture

Any thoughts guys?

ppk's picture

Stats:

26 years old
5 ft 10 inches
160 lbs
Don't know BF%, I'll measure it soon

I don't know how much more weight I want because it's not really good for rock climbing...I mostly just want a lot more muscle strength, endurance, and tendon strength.

gatorbits's picture

A basic healthy choice would be

Test E @500mg X 12 weeks

Aromasin Ai run throughout -read about it

Pct

Nolva @20mg Ed x 4weeks
Clomid @50mg Ed x 4weeks

Stay away from the oral steroids they are alot harder on the body

Most guys here recommend EQ to be the second compound used
And the recommend two to three test only runs first
And done correctly only two cycles per year can be achieved

Another word put the time into the training and diet and the rest over time will follow
This board is awesome bc we are not about
1500mg Tren per week and blowing up
We like to stay healthy and strong
Very wise member s here
Taught me alot

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eatchicken's picture

Everyone is going to asku for ur stat bro, so stats? Lol