posted Fri, 01/18/2013 - 05:59
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preservatives in steroids
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I know one of the common preservatives in steroids is benzyl alcohol . Does anyone know what other types of preservatives or other extra ingredients are added when brewing and how safe are these additives to be injecting into your body? i rememeber reading a article that said they had found arsenic, and a cancer causeing cattle fattener in some steroid samples from a popular supplier, one i have used in the past. so just wondering besides the oil , what else could we be injecting when we do our shots.
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What about preservatives that could be intentionally added to the oils to prevent oxidation? Like mixed tocopherols (forms of vitamin E) in a low concentration? Would help keep them nice and fresh for a long period of time.
Often the contaminants are from the production of raw powders in china. Many pharmaceutical/industrial labs produce many thousands of chemicals, medicines, and other compounds. Contamination of heavy metals and poisonous materials is usually from substandard practices when cleaning the equipment in the production of these raw powders.
For example, you read on the back of many candy packages that the equipment used was also used to produce other candy with peanuts. So if you have a peanut allergy you shouldn't eat this candy. It's crossing over to a new production that the equipment usually contaminates what is being produced. That's where nearly all contamination happens.
AnonActually Id be more suspicious of the pharma grade for stuff like that than I would be a UGL.
I was going to try and brew up some of my own E this weekend and I only have BA, BB, the raw E and GSO. Maybe I should snap a few thermometers in there too to make it more like Bayer schilling ;)
Another interesting thing is, when its bunky gear, obviously its not what it was billed as, so what is it ?
I had some bunk HGH and man that stuff disolved like the real deal, what could it have been ? A little baking soda biscuit ?
i hear you, i had some bunk HGH too, god only knows what was in it.. the article i read tested some steroids in sachets and they found some cancer causeing ingredients, just makes me worry whats in all these bottles i shoot one by one
Well that puts my mind at ease...
AnonI dont know if you are being sarcastic or honest, but in any case the ingredient list in most recipies for what we use are fairly simple and short. The only ones getting in to mercury and such would be big pharma, hence the innoculation argument .
good quest. I would love for one of the vets or suppliers to step in on this one.
SwolePatrole7X2 ... why the F*ck would anyone ever put arsenic in their gear...thats disturbing stuff right there mate
I can assure you that that is 99.9% coming from the raws from china and has nothing to do with an additive in the cooking process. I'm sorry, but the last thing one wants to do when cooking gear is to go buy MORE shit. No one is buying arsenide to mix into the gear.
Arsenic is fire!!
i know they dont buy arsenic to mix into the gear, i am asuming its a by product of the preservitives , just like thermerisol in flu vaccines contain mercury
Possibly, more likely shitty handling of chemicals in the warehouses in china lol. They're not well known for their proper handling procedures. I mean wasn't a few years ago some toys laced with heavy metals? So why wouldn't it be in our hormones as well? Unfortunately..
SwolePatrole7yeah thats exactly what i was thinking...the raws containing that shit..and i guarantee a lot of the labs use the same raws from same suppliers and alot probably do contain that...thats crazy
There's not that many excellent raw suppliers honestly. Being that this is illegal in my country and I obviously have no experience being a law abiding citizen, I would think that with all the money that goes into operating even a small scale home brewing lab, getting the amount of raws required to operate it, ordering the materials in increments small enough to not be on a watch list, to go through all that to sit there and throw poison in the gear, which lets think here, you're cooking up for most things 1000ml at a time, you're not making a separate batch for yourself, as that would require a smaller cook with another filter, more time to sit there and measure oil, ba, bb, hormone, you're not going to add arsenic to some shit you're using. It's coming from the supplier. Period. So that should ease some people's minds, that at least your source isn't the one sitting there dumping a bunch of other shit in your gear.
AnonIf the Chinese are willing to put lead in our toothpaste, dog food and orange juice I guess its no shock that theyd throw a little in illegal products too
Don't forget the melamine added to baby formula. A nitrogen-rich chemical that fools the tests into showing it as protein. At least 2 people involved were executed in China. Not nearly enough.
Anonah yes how could we forget the babies ? Oh those F-ing Chinese are unscrupulous