cant figure it out
I posted previously about what I had and what i wanted. i didnt have everything i needed (inexperience) I apologize for all the noob crap, I work 10hrs a day and im a single father of two little boys, I really dont get much time to sit down and read. so i am asking for help, im sure it goes against some rules but please help.
I have test c 300 and test e 400, nolvadex and clomid. i do not have hcg or caber. I have on hand deca, but im going to save for future cycle.
I was thinking of running 200mg test c and 300mg test e split a week for 10-12 and run my nolvadex/clomid. but heres my problems. i dont know when to start nolvadex/clomid and how much to run and for how long.
I may just go with only the test c 500mg per week split. ive read and been told I dont need to, or shouldnt mix. its all to confusing. so im asking for help PLEASE
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zewiYOu need to get an AI i would get Aromison. Start the AI about week 4--if your doing the cycle i posted.
AI Aromison @ 12.5mg EOD or 6.25mg ED
PCT you start 15 days after last test p shot
Week 1 PCT 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 2 PCT 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 3 PCT 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 4 PCT 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 10 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Anonlike GF said, both are long esters. they are very similar in half life. mixing it won't hurt you. there are blends out that have both. personally, i would just pick one over the other. if supply doesn't permit, you could do like GF says and run one til it runs out and switch to the other. don't forget to get an AI before you begin. aromasin (exemstane) is most ideal. you most likely won't need hcg for this, so don't sweat it.
judging by your response to zewi, i'd say potentially a layout like this:
wk 1-12: test e 600mg split (.75cc mon/thur)
wk 3-15: aromasin 12.5 eod
pct: (wk 16-19)
clomid 100/100/50/50
nolva 20/20/10/10
aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25 (eod)
run labs if possible week 6-7 to check e2 levels incase AI needs to be tweaked. save your cyp for another cycle.
zewiWell here you go than.. Use the Test E
Week 1-1 Monday 400mg Wensday 400mg Friday 400mg
Week 2-2 Monday 400mg Thursday 400mg
3-12 Monday 400mg Thursday 200mg
=20ml your two bottles. Now you can save the Test C and Deca for another cycle.
AS for AI Caber is all you got?? IF thats what you go thats what you got.. what is the mg for you Caber?
Start PCT 15 days after last shot
Week 1 Clomid 100 Nova 40
Week 2 Clomid 100 Nova 40
Week 3 Clomid 50 Nova 20
Week 4 Clomid 50 Nova 20
Anonyou beat me to it! haha. i like the frontload. since he's running such a simple cycle, i was thinking half on the nolva? don't forget AI.
zewiyeah i just wondering if all he has is caber, or does he have something else..
AnonI think he said he does not have caber, actually. Or did I read that wrong?
zewiU are correct sir...
zewiHow many bottles of each do you have?
i got 2 bottles of deca, 2 of test e, and 2 of test c.
AnonFollow instructions below me.. Its the perfect way to run it! Single father of 2 boys huh? pretty respectable man..
Both are long ester, slight differences! Run either, or. If you only have enough for 1 cycle start with one til its finished and continue with the other. That way you may be able to tell if you get different results from one or the other which will help you make decisions for future runs. Run the test C at 1ml\2x\wk, run the test E at .75ml\2x\wk which will put you at 600mg\wk which should give good gains without too many sides on a first cycle. The tried and true standard for PCT would be 2wks after last shot start the Nolva\Clomid at 100\100\50\50 and 40\40\20\20 those are PCT weeks 1\2\3\4 and the dose is per day. The pills should be 50mg and 20mg each so first 2 weeks 2 of each\d, second 2 weeks 1 of each\day. Good Luck!
I understand your pct Gor but you list Nolva/Clomid and then list the Clomid dosage first.I'm just thinking it may confuse him.
Yeah, but I did tell him the dose on the pills too so you'd think that would have enlightened but......
Anonoh shit.. good point.. PCT= start 2 weeks after your last pin of the Test. For the first 2 weeks use clomid @ 100mg per day and Nolva @ 40mg per day, last 2 weeks use clomid @ 50mg per day and Nolva @20mg per day
thanks for sorting that out for me.
i appreciate the help.
AnonIf you have the time, read this. Its about when you should take the clomid and nolva, as in what part of the day. Clomid does some strange things to emotions as well as nolva in other people. Just something you have to figure out through trial and error.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/full-clomid-n...