posted Sun, 12/09/2012 - 08:30
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Dbol with ai/proviron expierences...
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Hey this is for self knowledge only, im not looking to run this at all im running test/primo/var but its something that i could not find the answers for. To those that ran dbol for a kickstart to their cycle and used an ai such as adex or aromasin, and perhaps even some proviron to further harden up, how were the dbol results then? As far as gains, bloat control and overall strength and well being?
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Dbol is usually always ran with an AI. I recommend stacking arimidex and proviron. Set your arimidex to a dose you like and start proviron at 50mg per day. raise to 75mg if you still have holding water. Raise to 100 if you like but try 50 and 75 for a few weeks first. Proviron should be able to keep most the water off that the adex doesn't.
AnonI agree...Tbol or prop at 150EOD is probably the most popular kickstart for solid gains
Bro im not gonna run this regardless, im not looking for alternatives that doesnt answer my question. I was wondering for those that have done this what their expierences were. Saying to run prop or tbol wont help me with dbol expierence:)
I may be wrong, but I don't think dbol is a good kickstart if you plan on "hardening up". It more balloons you up, more water balloon too. I don't know that an oral kickstart would even be the best choice for a leaner bulk cycle, perhaps tbol? Best bet from what I have researched would be a prop kicker. However I'm sure a vet will chime in and give you a better answer.
Bro im not gonna run this regardless, im not looking for alternatives that doesnt answer my question. I was wondering for those that have done this what their expierences were. Saying to run prop or tbol wont help me with dbol expierence:)
I understand the concept of building knowledge, but if you haven't considered doing this yourself then perhaps someone you know is considering this and asked you about it. You may was well be asking "how do I make ice cubes in the oven?". Dbol is a quick strength builder and a makes you retain water heavily. I really don't know who would use it to "harden up", but you will start AI from day one and may have to adjust accordingly to how bad water bloat becomes. I ran it at 50mg/day and gained 10lbs in a week, and another member on here ran it at 10mg/day and gained about 10lbs in a week. And that wasn't 10lbs lean muscle, it was oh shit my pants are tight 10lbs water.
I'm not trying to be argumentative or off putting, more just trying to understand the rational of using this particular compound in a lean bulker like it seems you are suggesting.
P.S. The only way to make ice cubes in an oven is to put them in an oven sitting in an environment where the oven is below freezing temp with the oven off.
Its nice to know you can actually read posts. I never said use dbol to harden up!! I said add in proviron to harden up a lil since dbol might make you "softer" so please bud read the whole post before you write these irrelavant responces. Btw if you need some help with english or just how to read parts of a paragraph pm me.
Well you clearly have the bigger wiener in this argument. You said "perhaps even some proviron to further harden up". Which I assumed you were trying to harden up from the get go. Sorry, I'm not a mind reader. Perhaps be more specific next time you post so those of us who aren't as good at English as you can understand you better.