+ 4 My pct toremefin experience
So after tomorrow my pct will be complete. This has been the fastest, easiest recovery I have ever had in my 4 cycles. I did two things different this pct, I substituted nolvadex for toremifen and made the addition of aromasin. My pct was as follows
torem 120/90/60/30
clomid 100/100/50/50
aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
within 5 days of the start of pct I started getting morning wood and wood throughout the night.
within 10 days my nuts were growing, within 2 weeks they were as big as they have ever been.
I felt completely recovered in 2 weeks, My libido was back and I felt good and had good energy.
I also started taking some creatine and I feel that has kept my strength up.
As of right now I have only lost 3 pounds after my last injection, which is great since I had a little water weight. I went from 201 to 198.
Everything I found when researching toremifen came up as it being superior to nolva, And every review I read, people said they recovered much quicker using it. After this pct I am a believer in toremifen and will continue to use it in future pct. If you have never used it or considered it, I encourage you to at least research it.
Just thought I would throw this out there for you guys.
Almst forgot to add that a secondary reason I chose torem over nolva was because nolva suppresses igf1 production and torem does not. (or so I read)
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great to hear, i am actually using toremifene for the 1st time here in about 4 days i will be starting. i stay away from clomid though due to the blurry vision side effect i experience when on it, i dont like tampering with my eyesight.
There is Dr who worked in research at Schering AG in Germany.He was involved in studies with healthy subjects on effects of different anabolics Schering AG produced such as Test, Primobolan, and Proviron. He used toremifine along with clomid and HCG at Schering. He thinks AI's although they serve great purpose during a cycle for estrogen control have no role in PCT. Clomid and toremifine used for four weeks along with HCG at small dosages 150-200mcg three times a week work great. With some recent studies that have come out, he has been recommending triptorelin to his patients at 100mcg as a singe shot after the last AAS has cleared out of their system followed by Clomid/anti-est/ but with no HCG and has gotten better results. He likes to keep his patients estro under 30. His patients range from 70 year old grandpas to NFL players.
Nice feedback...will have to look more into this.
I've heard very good things about torem around the net, it hasn't been discussed much here and it was something I was considering, but went with the advice of what's proven.. I will try it wehn I learn more on dosing it correctly .. keep us updated bro! what brand did you use?.. if it's too revealing, PM me brotha!
From what little info there is on it, I found on one website that said start from around 100-120. Then I talked with someone on here (forgot who) and said 120 and work my down each week. 120/90/60/30 has seemed to do the trick really well for me.
AnonGood info indeed. I even bookmarked this one to remind me to look into it more. Thanks
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkNo problem bro. Thought it was good stuff so I had to spread word.
Great update!!
I loved torem for my pct I will use it everytime now was a breeze! Only thing different I used a small dose of nolva instead of clomid
Thanks I too have heard good things about it.
Give this man karma!!!!!!....thanks for your research brother....great addition of knowledge to this website
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Thanks bro, hope it helps.
Thank you for this.
I have been reading a lot of info on Toremifene and have came to the conclusion that is what I'm going to use for PCT.
I read on another board a member said he had a decent sized gyno lump and it almost completely broke up when using Toremifene ,
He also had incredible libido and felt great in general. Just started my cycle two wks ago and used dbol the first week and I had a pre existing lump and it definitely irritated it, but I'm using Aromasin and Nolva throughout this cycle and already my nips lost all puffiness and the lump has reduced in size, so ill be continuing this protocall throughout the cycle and then use Torem/Clom/Arom for PCT.
No problem bro. I've heard the same thing as well about the gyno and torem. I have a small bump that I originally got from puberty and it tries to flare up every now and then on cycle. It was never really noticeable at all but since using the torem is has made it almost non-existant and very soft vs it being a small hard beed. Let me know the pct goes with your torem and see if you recover as fast as I did.
interesting.. I skimmed through it a few times.. Looks like a need to go back and really do some reading. Sounds promising