+ 1 AI as PCT-Success but Not best Way! PCT Stress
So, I thought i would post this, after what happened with my PCT incident.
I had made arrangements to get my Clomid after doing a Test E cycle, 250mg/w (First Cycle) It was not available at the time I was on cycle, so I was going to just grab it after my last pin. Ends up, everything fell through, and I had no options really. I was so stressed, doing my research, and I ended up resorting to using Arimidex (AI) as my PCT as it was my only choice. I do not recommend this because it is not a serm like Clomid, but it did in fact work for me. I kept literally everything, other than I dropped 5-10 lbs in some exercises, (mostly due to lack of muscle stamina) I had seen little to no posts about using an AI as a PCT, but if anyone out there is stressing over there PCT, I used it an it worked. I do not know how it reacts with everyone else, but it defenitely worked with me. So if worst comes to worst, defenitely try it if no other PCT is available, I know it was not very smart, but it did end up working. Overall Message: ORDER PCT WITH CYCLE AT START.
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Adex is the worst choice of AI to use for PCT. U see it's not a suicidal AI. Which means that it vcannot form an unbreakable bond to the Aromatase enzyme. Aromasin on the other hand can and will form that permanent bond which essentially eliminates each individual Aromatase enzyme that is in the body at the time of use. Using it in conjunction with a proper PCT with Clomid and Nolvadex has been proven per blood test by members to not only aid the recovery process but it has indeed sped it up. The addition of Aromasin to ur PCT is an advantage many users have yet to experience. Aromasin increase endogenous Test and increase IGF-1 and decreases estrogen more efficiently than adex.
Thats really good knowledge, I have heard this in the past, but adex was all i could get my hands on, and was the only PCT type pill i could use, so instead of using no PCT at all, which would be horrendous, I tried using an AI as a sole PCT because it was my only choice. I proved to be successful, which was what I was hoping for. I know it was not what your supposed to do, but in my situation it was either use this AI as my PCT, or take nothing and lose all my gains. I had seen one or two forums, where people had talked about using an AI as PCT, so I thought it would be better than nothing. I lost a little muscle and size, which will obiously happen due to test levels going back to normal, but nothing to noticeable, and lost muscle stamina, due to lack of red blood cells, being off cycle etc. But other than that, no bad sides, no rebounds, hormnones all back in check, and this is close to a month after being off my .5mg/adex per day. It seemed to have responded super well with my body, but for next cycle i will be taking Clomid, maybe accompanied by aromasine.
Run this:
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
i'm starting my PCT tonight and from some vets on here that advocate the aromasin protocol you're describing, when you add aromasin to the mix you cut the nolva doses in half, so instead of nolva 40/40/20/20 it's 20/20/10/10. thoughts?
cdaddy7Yessir!! And cheers to Aromasin!!!!
Good thinking bro, it's always a very wise choice To have everything on hand during a cycle! Especially if something embarrassing happens like gyno! Pct should be nolva and clomid of course started two weeks after your last pin due to the half life of test e. nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 300 first two days followed by 100/100/50/50 this should get you back on track! Nothing is stopping you from throwing some HCG In there is testicular atrophy occurs. It's grea to see you are seeing your mistakes, doing your research and correcting things before your second cycle! Good luck keep in touch! Give this post a gander http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/a-safe-and-effective-pa...
Will keep in mind for next cycle.... Great advice
Cheers
A bunch of people run aromasin with their pcts having clomid and nolva. adex you have to be extra cautious with the dosing so you don't get rebound, otherwise yeah I can see that helping
Why extra cautious with adex ? And would the estro rebound not be the same as it would be with aromasin as there both gna lower estro at the ryt dose and then when you have your last jab and let the juice clear your system you could run a ai ryt up till you start pct even into pct stopping any rebound of estro and making for a betta pct.one more thing do you know why folk say adex is no good with nolva az they dnt work well 2gva ? Sorry for the 101 lol but am just trying to learn az much as a can abwt pct,ai ect b4 my pct.long ansers from anyone welcomed haha i like details not trying to hijack post cheers.
Yeah, it has been about 3 weeks after my PCT, with just ADEX, 50mg/d and I have seen no rebound, and kept all gains
AnonHow long ago was this...how much weight did you lose?
I have been off PCT for about 3-4weeks, using ADEX 50mg/d and I have lost no weight at all. Not the best idea to use an AI like ADEX alone as PCT but it was my only choice and it worked great!
Wtf !?!? Adex 50mg a day do you even know what the proper dosage of adex is during cycle of 250mg test e a week which you were taking which is weak by the way first cycle should always be 500 mg a week but adex during your cycle should be .25 every second or third day unless gyno symptoms occur according to how your body reacts. How are you not suffering from way to low estrogen right now ? Plus your only 3 weeks on pct you will still lose more weight and at 50mg a day u will suffer huge estrogen rebound please tell me you meant to put .5 mg adex a day your taking
I cant remember if it said 50 mg, or .5mg, it was NewPort, it must have been .5. My bad. I know Adex is not used as a PCT alone, but it was the only thing similar enough to clomid or nolva that I coud get my hands on... I know it isnt smart, but I wanted to post this thread in case anyone else was in the same case that I was in. There were no threads about people using AI's as a PCT, and I wanted to put this up in case it was peoples last resort. I have kept all strength, most size, and have had no rebounds, hormones are all back in check. 3 weeks after PCT, and from my experience, (friends, seeing others, etc.) If you still have size this far after, you will most likely keep it, and your hormones if fine now, will be okay