posted Sun, 09/09/2012 - 13:57
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EQ and DECA stack
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The old battle has always been deca vs eq. I have recently read that stacking the 2 is a great stack,you get the best of both worlds. I am going for 600mg/w of both with 400mg test(anything over 400mg and I have major sides including being a complete a hole.) For some reason test has always hit me hard. With .5mg adex eod. Thanks for the input.
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To everybody again thanks for helping out, you all just proved again why this is the greatest sight. I will let you guys know what I decide and post gains.
cdaddy7Well Logan, have u given any thought to 1 Test Cyp? Here's some info for you brother and others....
It's dihydroboldenone actually, a tweaked EQ compound that kicks ass from what I have read and actually have some on the way to me from a very reputable SRC.....it can be ran like EQ but more effective at lower doses.... Chemical name is 17beta-hydroxyandrost-1-en-3-one, 5alpha-androst-1-en-3-one, 17beta-ol .... the Anabolic /Androgenic Ratio: 200/100...here's some other facts I found on it too:
*1-Test is 5-7 times more active (anabolic ) than testosterone itself. (More lean tissue gains with fewer potential negative side effects)
*1-Test does not aromatize to estrogens. In fact some studies suggest a slight anti-estrogen effect due to aromatase inhibition. (No water retention, gynecomastia or fat gains)
*Similar to Trenbolone or high dose Primobolan Acetate in effect without the libido issues. Injectable 1-Testosterone
Naturally, many hard-core athletes have employed 1-testosterone as a parental (injectable) preparation. Those that were able to acquire 1-Testosterone esters such as decanoate or cypionate realized the best anabolic results due to improved pharma-kinetics. Most users of properly prepared sterile products (pyrogen free) report significant hardening of the musculature with increased lean mass tissue and fat loss at total weekly dosages of 200-300mg. There is also a surprising noted significant increase in functional strength. Many have compared 1-Testosterne Cypionate to Trenbolone in effects. I have noted this to be so but this would suggest potential for the negative side-effects of trenbolone as well. I would suggest that the results from this type of application are closer to that of high dose Primobolan Acetate use with better over all hardening value. (Harder, leaner, stronger and hornier..... Here's the rest of the write up....lots of info on it....I gave you just a few great perks
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?408045-1-test-Cypionate-(Injectable)#.UFHXvzfCuBU
Thanks brother. I am going to do some serious research on this potentially amazing compound.
zewiNeed to ask what do you want most out of this cycle?
WOW!!!!!!! Every one assumed because of my past they all new what I was doing. VERY VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!! +3 but I can't so +1. My body is genetically dis positioned for being lean and fast. Small frame but fully developed at 185. No matter what I do with calories I can't get past 190. I think 190 at 6% bf is a nice size but my metabolism even at my age is ridiculous. Go off my diet 1 week down 5lbs. I have accepted this and love the fact that am I am lean & people strive for what comes natural to me.But you are never happy with what you see in the mirror. I am all about development at this point My legs genetically has always been the thorn in my side. I kill them but making them compatible with my upper body has always eluded me. I want the perfect built.If I can get my legs to grow more hense deca test eq I can reach my goals by summer 2013.
zewi1-4 Dbol @ 50mg ED
1-18 Test e @ 400mg a week
1-16 EQ @ 600mg a week
6-15 Deca @ 200mg a week
Thanks for the input my brother.But what about tbol instead of dbol? I have always been about quality rather than quantity.
zewiIts your choice brother.. And you can run tbol for 6 weeks.
deca from 5-16 would deliver an ideal 12 weeks, and stopping at 16 would leave 4 weeks till test clears and PCT starts.
Very flattered I have you guys chiming in. HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE seeing I have the attention of 2 people I respect very well.(AND don't get a big head from it)lol. I am looking for this cycle to improve lower body mainly. Quads and hamstrings once every 5 days. Completely destroy them. Calfs twice a week 1 heavy and 1 high reps. I got good gains last year. and I think I have finally found the right workout for them. October until May is 100% focused on my legs.
I would dump the deca and run primo along side of the EQ, 600/600/400 like you want. theres no question the primo and EQ have great synergy together and a t-bol kick start would set you off on one of the best long ester cycles out there.
t-bol 1-6 60mg/d
test 1-18 400mg/w
EQ 1-16 600mg/w
primo 1-16 600mg/w
cdaddy7I'm with u on that one RoidNoid, I hate deca and i know Zewi does too but it doesn't mean the compound is no good....I just thinkthere are better options to deca that can yield u the same results with the right training and diet dialed in without all of the sides and prolactin issues....I'm biased, but that's just me....thats a damn fine cycle and the primo...liquid gold....great choice
zewiI love this cycle.
i have ran this before. 
zewiDrop the EQ and go Test Deca with a tbol or dbol kick
1-6 Tbol @ 50mg ed
1-15 Test @ 625mg
1-12 Deca @ 400mg
zewialso if you get 1test you could have some fun also...
1-6 Tbol @ 50mg ed
1-18 Test E @ 250mg
1-16 1test @ 500mg
cdaddy7Hell yeah, bring on the 1 Test Cyp!!!!! That's almost the same as mine but I'm using prop to kickstart and taper
simple is probably better though, mine is a little more advanced!
zewiLOL> . i just about wrote down what you wrote.. lol.. i ws thinking primo and eq.. well thats a lot of compounds.. ok go simple..
zewitrue true.. I just never really ran deca past 10 weeks but your right P:
But i dont run deca anymore.. I love EQ...
I wouldnt run this cycle like this either!
but it dont mean it cant be productive for someone else! :/
zewiyeah... everyone is different in their goals...
This cycle popped in my head today, dont know why but im wondering why you dont run
Prop 1-4 75mg/d
test 1-18 400mg/w
NPP 1-8 50mg/d
EQ 1-16 600mg/w
this way you could run both but allow each its own time to do its thing, 8 weeks NPP is perfect and thats when the EQ kicks in, just an idea.
Granted absolutely a sick cycle but look below for my answer. +1 for making me think about it and if I ever stop being a little bitch when it comes needles maybe I'll try this cycle .LOL
zewii like it good shit Roid...
Uncle Zewi who I know has my back along with Roid I thank you but,I HATE PINNIG!!! Twice a week is max. Insulin ed no problem but bigger I hate it. Both of you have great advice but that cycle is not for me. 3cc twice a week is all I am good for now a days. Been around way to long to go back to the eod shit. I literally loose interest in pinning. How about like I said 600 600 400 is it still realistic for good solid gains? As always thanks for the knowledge and help.
If they do compete for the same receptor this would alleviate that! And my personal experience has been changing compounds works far better then long runs together.
cdaddy7Very interesting and def makes sense to change up
600 complete? or 300..300...400? Ive run low test with high eq for great results. leaner etc. Not suggested for newbs...but youre experienced.
OOPS...saw below your reply. 400 test/600 eq has been run and in cycle logs for another user. One of the gurus had a stack similar to what youre asking but cant remember the dosages...
cdaddy7I fucked up reading it too watching football and tryn to do two things at once LOL
Same here, haha. And on my phone. So how do I take back a karma vote? My fat thumb hit the karma button instead of reply. You might deserve karma, but not on that post! Haha
dudes cant multitask. chips stuck into the keys....lol
ive read that they both compete for AR activation receptor, and while both are good steroids independently, and compare closely in muscle development, when used together it is minimized. Simuliar to the discussion of tren and test and the same receptor. But I have not spent the time to follow up on this. So first I would read up on it and if its true then id run my EQ higher and drop my deca to atleast 1/1 ratio of test for least amount of sides. my opinion. or just skip the cycle all together.
Interesting I will look into it. Thanks for the feed back
cdaddy7My bad, read it wrong. Sry Logan
cdaddy7Me and Zewi have talked a bout this but not using the compounds together. I hate Deca all together, but that doesn't mean that it don't work great for others. Its the damn sides that get me. That's my spill. I do see that you could likely replace the test spot with EQ bc the ratio 100:50, test is 100:100. Eq has "test like" propeties, but still is no sustitute for test IMO. Its possible, but the libido and deca dick is the two that stand out the most in my mind. Consideration of maybe a low dose of test to run underneath it would prevent it and not hit you so hard if you drop the dose to a TRT type dose maybe like 150-200mg a week. IDK... Its hard to run a cycle with no test bc of the libido issues and impotence with the shut down....but its possible I guess maybe with proviron but then you got the DHT factor in that, but you can use 100-150mg without supressing LH and FSH and its binds so good to SHBG.... Lots of good brainstorming can be done with this....I'm gonna stop and see if other's chime in and agree or disagree with me
He's also running 400 mg test.
I've always been told one or the other. I wanted to try this actually but I tend to steer clear of deca. But you're covering all bases with this. 19-nor, test, dht. You should get excellent results with this but i'm interested in hearing feedback. Like I said, ive always heard don't run both, but pick one or the other
Same here. Only time I've had lean gains from deca was on a low dosage, 250-350mg wk. They do two different things for me.
Never had a problem with deca dick. Guess I am one of the lucky ones. Also I don't get bad sides from deca, nothing that arimadex can't fix. Like I said best of both worlds I am going for it in November unless I hear this not a good idea from other members for pure scientific reasons. This might be the next great stack. I'll be the ginny pig.
BostonI think it sounds like an awesome stack bro...i have run npp @ 200mgs higher than test and my libido was on fire! I think with the 400mgs of test in the mix you should be ok
Currently running npp and eq. It's pretty dope can't lie.
cdaddy7I sent a FR
Sorry for the people that don't know me 6ft. 185lbs. 6% bf & 15 years of cycles the only thing I haven't done is tren and will never.
Do u mean 300mg of deca and 300mg of eq, or 600mg and 600mg?
600mg of each a week