posted Fri, 08/24/2012 - 12:26
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Need pct advice
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Planning my next cycle, tren e (500mg aweek) & test e (400mg aweek) but other than running arimidex towards the end of the cycle and into my pct. Not sure what else i should be using, done alot of searching and reading. Found alot of diff. Stuff. Any help would be great.
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thanks heaps for your quick and prompt reply
cdaddy7Glad to help u bro
cdaddy7I wouldnt see the need unless u r stacking heavy r using major compounds that would shut u down. Everyone is different but IMHO u wont need it for a test only cycle at that dose
Thanks for your kind advice.
I understand the Nolva, Clomid is always required even if test dose is low.
When is HCG indicated?
cdaddy7Run the test e for 12 weeks
Drop the HCG, dont need it. Save it for later
Weeks 1-12 500mg/wk Test E(250mg split dose)
Start PCT 15 days after last shot of test
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Great idea to have an AI plan on deck for during cycle in case issues arise
I need advice. This is my first cycle of Test Enanthate 300 mg only weekly for 10 weeks.
Do I need HCG or PCT?
I know how to take HCG & PCT. However, unsure when it is indicated.
Always PCT with Clomid and nolva at least. You will start PCT 2 weeks after last injection. Clomid and Nolva should be ran 4 weeks. clomid 100,100,50,50 ,nolva 40,40,20,20 .
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cdaddy7How many cycles u got under ur belt? When u think Tren, think TEN cycles r more. There are plenty of other good quality stacks out there to yield u quality gains before u pull the Tren guns out just yet. The more info u give on ur goals , ur diet, and training we can help you in customizing the best cycle for u. Looks like Uncle Fast has u covered on the pct end. PCT is the key element to cycle success IMO
Hope he researches n listens.....post got jacked.
DON'T RUN THAT CYCLE....research before your errors are permanent
Pct...clomid and nolva is a four week recovery. Doses are per day for that week. Sources here have everything
Clomid 100..100...50...50
Nolva 40...40...20...20
Hcg is 500iu split. Run during cycle. Use ai when running hcg since there's some estro conversion.
Aromasin is a good ai 12.5Mg/day
Caber or prami for prolactin. Caber had less sides.
If running fast Esters like prop/tren a the pct starts 2days after last shots.
Long Esters is two Weeks after enanthates.
hcg starts at week 1 or week 4?
Imo...week four when test kicks in. 500iu split meaning a mon/thurs for example
how long is it good after mixing? some say 21 days some say 2 months...considering its left in the fridge
In fridge you're good all cycle. Keep that ai running while using hcg as it has estro bump as well. If nutties are full it can help that pct recovery. If you're running long cycle like test eq..I'd run it last 6-8Weeks while on cycle. Just like anything...you're sending a false signal so if its a 18weeker...I'd opt for later. The old days folks hit it after cycle and before pct at high doses...i think that'd be overkill. Asking too much too late.
so for an 18 week test/EQ cycle, you run it at weeks 11-18. correct?
If its the traditional cycle where test ends at 18....yes. Lets them stay plump...ready to go on pct. And by then you're already on your ai.
Ok cool, ive used clomid and nova before. So use prolactin and aromasin during with the hcg, what do you mean by split? (Sorry if thats a stupid question just tryin to get educated b4 jumping into somthing)
Prolactin buildup will make your nipples leak. Caber fights prolactin. Aromasin keeps estrogen low. Honestly tren shouldn't be used til at least a dozen cycles are run. There's many factors that make it a difficult cycle. A typical lean bulk cycle has less sides and still puts on lean solid gains. Test/eq can be a much better/safer cycle imo.
Ok, then what would be a good 12week cycle with test/equis. Im just looking forr a lean/bulk
there isn't
I understand what prolatin is, what caber dose amd the need of low estrogen. Just never had access to such products to use. So i thought With all these new wounderful sources at my finger tips i try n do it the right way. Been doing alot of reading and searchin, found lots of mixed info and wound up with a headache.
There's tons of great info here....i'm seriously trying to get you off the tren train for your future health. What ends up happening is forcing your body into needing trt as a young guy.
I used tren by its self on short 4 and 8 weeks cycles with no pct and like i said had only a few sides for idk 2weeks after the cycle
So basically you have not completed one real cycle and you're dipping into one o the harshest steroids out. You're risking losing yoyr balls for life. Strongly suggest you step back and research more. Ask vets how real this is.
Nors shut down natty test. Can't judge bloodtests by sides. Be careful
Thats what im doing now brotha, im
Not on anything now nor have i been in close to a yr. Im gathering as much advice and info ican on building this cycle. I didnt say i was pinning in the morn. Im trying to get list of everything down to the diet im gonna use.
Cool man. Threw some dad speech because don't wanna see yound dudes get messed up. So many ways to grow without issues. Tons of info in cycle logs, forums etc. Glad you're researching!!
Stats! Age? Cycles?
well first why you guys giving any advice and no one has asked for age and stats
Age: 25
Height: 5'11
Weight: 212
Bfi: 14%
This will be my 4th cycle. And as far as running test higher, ive seen alot of mixed info on that. Ive used trebolone before and didnt have acess to anything for pct and had few mild sides. Tren-dick being one of them.
+1 FOR BEING FULLY CORRECT! This could be a complete NOVICE!
Supernova283Because regardless of age or stats if he's running trenbolone he's going to want cabergoline.
Plus that's Fast and Viking's thing not mine.
Always get stats for SAFETY! Don't talk or promote dangerous behaviors here. -1
Supernova283How is recommending cabergoline to someone who plans on running trenbolone dangerous? Please explain.
He came to PCT/AE advice not cycle advice.
Read his reply...he's run tren ALONE twice. This is why we ask questions first. Figure out what and who we're dealing with. Basically i'm reading hete he HAS NOT COMPLETED A PROPER CYCLE.
Supernova283I was the first commenter. I didn't have access to the knowledge that he'd run stupid cycles.
However there are enough people (like you) who ask for stats and such. When I do stuff like that I just get flamed and trolled about how I shouldn't be giving cycle advice because I've never ran a cycle.
I was advising him on the issues he'd be facing while on trenbolone and that he should have cabergoline. That isn't bad advice and I should at least be allowed to state the obvious.
Recommending caber is the opposite of dangerous. It's the smart responsible thing to do.
EXACTLY! YOU HAVE NEVER RUN A CYCLE BUT WANNA JUMP IN WITH YOUR BOOK RESEARCH! YOU'RE GONNA HARM SOMEONE! Take your book research and apply it to WHAT YOU SHOULD ASK.....STATS! THEN YOU KNOW OUTRIGHT HIS PRIOR CYCLES WERE BUNK. YOU WANNA RESEARCH BUT DON'T EVEN BOTHER TO ASK PERTINENT QUESTIONS.
Supernova283Oh no I'm pretty much done with research. I've read all the steroid profiles, and I've seen how people run cycles and I don't really think I can learn much more here.
As for your advice you can go shove it. I can't win with you guys anyway. I can't do crap without getting flamed so you know what I'll do as I please.
None of the information I have ever given has been dangerous. And recommending Cabergoline to someone who says they're going to run tren isn't dangerous.
The guy is in PCT/AE advice part of the site. That's what I'm going to give him. If you want to advice him on his cycle go ahead, but nothing I said was wrong.
You people flame me for giving cycle advice and then you flame me for not asking about his cycle to give cycle advice. I can't win with you people.
So you can go fuck yourself like I've told you numerous times after you've flamed me.
125lbs of sqwak box. You give bad advice and dont know firsthand a nything going on. Come back when your BIG and we'll hook you up.
You also just told a guy to take LETRO WHEN HE'S ONLY THREE WEEKS INTO TINY CYCLE!!!! THATS MORE HARMFUL INFO! GO AWAY
Supernova283He has preexisting gyno. I've seen people recommend letro for it with great success. The letro advice wasn't for his cycle.
How about you try and make me go away?
well you dont need to run the tren higher than your test, you might want to go look at some cycles posted, tren is twice the stuff test is, i would do test 500 a week, tren 250. or test 750 and tren 325.. dont do tren higher than test
Ok. The only reasson i had it like this was i mainly using the test to keep my leveled out on the tren. Ive used trenbolone before and i wanting the benifits of it more
Supernova283Cabergoline for prolactine.