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this is my proposed second cycle. now i gota start with saying. as much as i preach this, my first cycle wasnt the standard 12 week test e. i am quite stubborn and did and 8 week prop and var. so do as i say not as i do. the only new compound being introduced in this is test e. i wanted to run something else this time. and i wanted my first introduction into long esters to be test c, but i won all those pharmagrade test e amps so i guess thats that. so here goes.
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6'2"
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bf%-not sure. around 15-17 id guess.

week 01-02 test prop 75mg ed
week 03-04 test prop 50mg ed
week 01-12 test e 500mg week split into 2
week 10-14 var 80-100mg ed
week 13-14 test prop 50mg ed
week 01-14 aro 12.5 eod
week 03-14 hcg 500iu week split into 2
standard clomid nolva pct to follow

now the 2 things i did here that may need correcting are my first prop dosage and the the var timing. i chose to run prop 75mg ed the first 2 weeks and drop it to 50mg ed the last 2 weeks of kickstart. i did this because long esters take a 2 weeks to start working. after they originally kick in. i gave it another 2 weeks to build up in my system. trying to have the smoothest transition possible. also, the var, should i keep it 2 weeks with the test e and 2 weeks with the prop or do all 4 weeks with the test e.

DBG's picture

as much as i preach this, my first cycle wasnt the standard 12 week test e.

Neither was mine...maybe not the smartest of ideas, but hey...live and learn, right?

I think your plans look good...I like the idea of running the var weeks 10-14 (2 and 2)with your prop taper and the last two of E, it'll make for some nice lookin' "clean-up" at the tail end. AND this will encourage your body to hold onto some quality, lean gains all said and done, because for whatever reason it seems with var you hold onto the end results for weeks to months after cycle.

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Ruski I'm really liking your plans here the only thing I would consider here would be the test E instead of twice aweek you will find that your levels would be a little more balanced a E3D. The last three cycles I have run with E the E3D treated me very well. I also have front loaded my Test E in the last few cycles and really liked that also just balancing me out faster

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edit-question answered

DBCCHEM's picture

Sorry Z but I don't recall E half life at 15 closer to ten eleven correct?

DBCCHEM's picture

Your correct sir except I was running 600mg E week but none the less just food for thought

DBG's picture

OK...so if I am running 600mg test E this fall, I should pin E3D's instead of the standard split Sun./Wed. or Mon./Thurs.?? Interesting idea.

DBG's picture

Hmmm....well that's good that I have extra vials of E laying around!! So how does that get split up with 300mg/ml test E if I wanna do 600mg/wk.?

DBCCHEM's picture

Essentially its kinda give and take I will explain..... Week one Sun Wed Sat at .8ml at 300 mg per ml is 240 mg a shot so week one is actually 720mg for the week but now week two is Mon Thursday totaling 480mg so the sum of two weeks is 1200mg so your average through out the cycle is considered 600mg week and with the half life you'll find this more balanced

DBG's picture

Wow...that's pretty weird, the doses and the leveling off and all. Once again, another factor to consider and much thanx for explaining the how-to-dos!

DBCCHEM's picture

Not a problem glad I could help the next thing we can consider is a frontload but that's for another thread

DBG's picture

Yeah...kinda highjacked ruski's thread here...Sorry bud, but I think you wanted this answered too!!! lol

fast48's picture

After i saw the "Ed" during prop kicker.....ya agree. Var can go last 6Weeks til pct to get full effects. If it was Winny the last four. Looks tight bro!

ruski's picture

i stick that shit ed. more pain more gain lol. jk... keeps the levels more stable Smile

fast48's picture

More stable for sure! I'm about to finish prop eod.....felt fine but getting the best out of cycle is much smarter thinking.

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yessir