EQ+ Test400+ Stanoil
I need some advice here, I am looking at my next cycle and I want to take:
Test Blend 600mg/Week 1-14
EQ 600mg/Week 1-14
Stanoil 50mg/EOD 9-14
????Turnibol 40mg/ED 1-4
Does anyone think turnibol is a good kickstarter? I have never used it but been reading up on it like crazy. I am not opposed to running just EQ, Test, Stanoil alone but I would like something to hit me sooner than the test or EQ will.
Just for stats: 228lbs 10.2% bf, 23 years old. This will be my 4th cycle. I have experience with Test Cyp, EQ, Sust, Winstroll tabs and Anavar. My diet is almost spot on and I lift 5 times a week. I am prone to gaining tons of water weight quickly with some gear.
Also, a buddy was telling me to use HCG instead of something like adex on cycle. What are anyones thoughts on this? I have never used HCG before or adex. Last couple cycles, I didn't run anything with my gear.
Finally, any advice on a better PCT than Nolva and Clomid? I like them but is there anything else I am missing?
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well the vets may not like what I have to say as I seen they are on you already but I disagree with them. 23 years old is young brother theres no denying that, and im not an advocate for roids before 25, but I also look at other deciding factors, such as 228 at 10.2%...I also see down below that you played college ball and got a comp coming up, clearly you know what it takes to compete and the hard work it requires. If you where 170 forth cycle id tell you to go fly a kite. So im gonna answer your question...
T-bol is a good kickstart, it is mild in comparison to D-bol or Anabol but it doesnt have the water weight associated with those compounds. And it doesnt blow you up really big first month to where the rest of your cycle is the same weight just solidifying the gains. psychologically in my opinion it is the better compound for the long runs. I would say in 4 weeks it would put on you approx 6 to 10 pounds, which leaves you room to grow from the other compounds. 40mg/d IMO is low however, 50 would be my minimum.
the test EQ ratio is fine, what is in the test blend?
the stan oil is fine but I would say the dose is also a little low, 25mg/d probably wont do much for you. 50 would be the bare minimum for me.
Adex Adex Adex! get some and run it, its night and day, especially if you are water prone. 25mg/d is a good place to start and adjust as needed.
Hcg through cycle will help recovery in PCT, your 23 at the end of the day, no matter how big you are lets focus on keeping that natty for as long as we can, its a no brainer, run it! 500iu/w, (250iu twice a week)
how do you run your nolva and clomid? dosage per day/week? how many weeks?
the last thing I want to ask is when do you plan to run this cycle?
thanks man I appriciate the advice. So you think I should stick with Tbol or switch to something else?
To answer your questions:
-the test blend is 50mg prop 350 E
-Last time I took win I took tabs at 50mg/d but the guy I got my stanoil from said i dont need to take it as often since its an oil based... should i still do 50 per day?
- Adex sounds like a plan, should I run this from day 1? I read this can be hard on the body, an advice on this?
-When I ran nolva/clomid for my other cycles, they were 12 week cycles but I did clomid 300 day1 100 2-10 and 50mg after that for 4 weeks total. Nolva was day 1 100mg, day 2-10 60mg, and 11-30 40mg..
I have never had a problem with pct but like I said, 2 of my cycles I have put on some major water weight and was looking to adex to possibly fix it. For the pct does this same schedule work if I plan on going 14-16 weeks?
Not sure why you would run a test blend like that, going into a comp a wouldnt play with any blends period, that blend is a waste of prop, I wouldnt even count it toward the overall dose, its just a Dumb combination. I guess they would call it 400mg/mil, so to get 600mg/w your pinning 3/4 mil every 3.5 days, so thats like 38mg of prop E3.5? dumb! to actually get a dose of prop that would work you would need to pin 1mil ED and that would end up being 2450mg of test-e/w. Garbage!
Ok as for the winny, ive only used it once, didnt really like it, dont know much about it other then what ive read, so maybe someone else can give you more enlightenment on that subject.
adex yes start it from day one, your test has prop in it!
your PCT should be fine just like that, the Hcg will help.
I would say toss that test and get something with only one compound in it.
thanks brotha, I have only taken cyp before, do you have an opinion about E vs cyp or should i try something else? As far as winny goes, I liked it because it seemed to keep me hard and strong towards the end of my cycle last time, do you have a suggestion for replacement? I def wanna stick with EQ and Test but im open past that. I have never been on cycle and then did a comp right after so I am def worried about water retention
Don't drop test and eq at same time.
how far apart should I start? EQ then test or Test then EQ?
I would drop the stanoil, no t Bol if u want a kicker add prop...IMO
Yes sir...prop is a great kick...gives you a good test buzz too
I dont belive you need that much to grow...the test alone would be fine with the right amount of good clean food...with that said I have done turanibol and it was very weak IMO...It certainly is not a kickstarter as it takes a while to see results from it.
tread-mWow, 23 brother and you think you need these runs already? Ok so let's do this are you competing or wanting to? We can go from there and you may not like the advice but I have no motivation other than help here so put that in your head as the thread rolls. Yes, you need an AI, no hcg won't take the place of it so have buddy stick to what he k nows, bowling? Lol ..hcg is fine though on the cycle if you like but as you say, "prone to water" so you need some serious school here and I hate to say, you could get a whole lot more out of a whole lot less if you know what you are doing. Let's make that happen for you after you answer the competing question.
Yeah I have a competition I am working for thats in December. I have tried just Test and had good results but I am huge on EQ and stanoil. I am not opposed to trying with out it. From what I understand, HCG will help keep nat test production up while on cycle? I have nver taken AI before so what would you recommend and how much should I take cuz some info says only when sides show up and some say entire time. Last couple cycles I ran I had great results (Test Cyp, EQ and Win) But I wanted to try and add something to kick start it. Should I just drop a kickstarter and stick with EQ, Test and Stanoil? I am a knowledge sponge so whatever you have to offer, throw it out there
Lmao! "BOWLING" dont you hate it when they have a friend who knows everything!sounds a little like me and you lol... anyways 4 runs at 23 wow... and i read that diet is "nearly" spot on! Hmmm even a 10 compound stack with a crap diet will turn out to be a sad day.
Hes gotta be doing something right to finish his comps where he does. I figured Id post here to learn more. And yeah my first 2 cycles were just Test when I played college ball and was coming back from a completely blown out knee. When I said my diet was nearly perfect is I usually don't alot for cheat days so when I do have a cheat day, I can crumble that day. What would u suggest then if as a good cycle that has EQ in it and can provide me that lean, look while still adding size and strength
tread-mThese fing bowlers and their hcg advice!! its all over the PBA apparently!! Lolol
Hmmm bowlers with big HCGed up balls evolution at its finest brother... drug testing on game shows next... the bad tempered one at the back keeps shouting! he must be the one on halo lol...lol