Veyron has bad pip bro even the Test E!!! but the prop is unreal bad, im running both veyron prop and E at the mo, bit of advice if your running E too, DONT do a ml of both in one pin in one area i was crippled for four days, also prop in the quads for me has way more pip than the glutes, try heating the oil, load the pin and leave it sit in a cup of hot water and inject slowly it should help.

Veyron has some wicked pip.....never again for this guy,no way.

Im in the second week of my first cycle with veyron cyp and have my fourth pin tomorrow. I've been doing quads and have pretty much been limping around the past two weeks. Goes in smooth just is swollen when I wake up. Haven't been able to run at all so doing all my cardio on a bike now. Quick tip get a heating pack and just warm up the knots before you have to do anything that requires walking and it helps. I didn't sleep walk the night, but I do remember waking up in the middle of the night sweating so bad I thought I pissed the bed, but it hasn't happened again since.

I have a unopened veryon prop but scared to use it due to all the horror pip stories

Pinning before sleep....doesn't get bloidflow. Ouch!

Yeah I remember my quads causing me to limp for an entire week my first injection.. not fun.. make sure your very clean and safe that's a biggy

I got pretty sick the first time i pinned deca. Within an hour I felt like i had the flu. Second shot mad me not feel good but not as bad and by the third i was fine

drunk? lol

I did all of the basics too but i think the veyron gear just gives bad PIP cause after i switched brand pinning has been much smoother no more donkey kick

IF this is your first cycle, did you do the basics?

Did you use a reliable source?
Only YOU know the answer to this one.
Did you clean and sterilized the area you were pinning up in?
A BIG must.
Did you warm the juice up BEFORE you pinned up?
Warming the juice up under a warm running tap or with a hair dryer can help the mixture to re-mix with the crystals/chemicals used to create your juice.
Did you sterilize the top of the vial you were extracting from?
You never know what's on the tops. The creator COULD have coughed on the top when he was capping it for instance.
Did you warm your muscle up BEFORE you pinned?
Pinning into cold muscle sometimes makes it more difficult for you to pin into and can sometimes make you force the juice in.
Did you inject the juice in slowly?
It's usually best at a rate of about 20-30secs per 1cc so you don't tear the muscle by injecting into it too quickly.
After you pinned, did you rub the juice into the muscle profusely, 'To get it into the muscle properly'?
A BIG NO-NO. If you rub the area to hard you're potentially tearing the muscle fibers by forcing the juice around.
Did you take a warm bath/shower after you pinned up?
Whenever I pin up, (Except when the Mrs wants some grown-up fun in the pool), I ALWAYS take a 20 minute bath afterwards and just soak the pinned area. It helps the muscle to digest the fluid better.

Something else for you to remember, IF this is your first time pinning up, you're pinning into virgin muscle that isn't used the chemicals involved.

Also, if you've used Test P or Sustanon, (Which also has Test P in it), for the first time most first time users do feel some harsh P.I.P from it. (Post Injection Pain).

Just some of the basics we've ALL had to learn, Mate.

I ran veyron once in my past. Horrible pip. Never bought their products again.

My gear goes in smooth as silk no pip and I am jabbing 3ml twice a week.I have read from other members that the pip from veyron is horrible. I am not saying it's bad gear just the pip is really bad.