posted Sat, 06/23/2012 - 11:04
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what has the hardest part/time period of your life been?
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Who better to ask than you all?
what has the hardest part/time period of your life been?
Right NOW. In beginning stages of divorce and still living in house. Have young daughter and I am doing right thing and having her stay with mom and stay in house while I go who knows where in a few months. Its also a house I happened to put a $50K pool in the backyard last year I am walking away from. Very emotional time. Trying to focus on daughter, gym, and work but its real hard.
been there put ex through grad school after that see ya but focus on the children and whats best for them everything else will work itself out
No doubt bro. Thanks
Does anybody mind if I jump all over the board here?
Speak your mind
When I was in the service we had a saying, "where the mind goes the body will follow...", the same is true for the reverse. Where the body goes the mind will also follow. When I had a rough patch at your age my platoon would not leave me alone. We ran jumped and swam all over the island until it was over. My point is you cannot control life but there are things you can do to change your mindset. Working out hard is one certainty you can have. If you haven't learned by now you should know that a good strong workout leaves you with a feeling of accomplishment and positive feelings even when things aren't going so well. Remember it's one of the things you do have control over. I would consider laying off the gear for a few months. I say this for several reasons. One is you are suppressing your bodies natural ability to cope with stress when on AAS. Your hormones are suppressed to the point of non production and you force yourself into a state of imbalance otherwise known as not in homeostasis. (Homeostasis is your bodies natural balance) Normally on cycle this is a good thing as we want to trick our bodies into growing. However, it is horrible when trying to cope with life. Your not eating is a result of stress and is very hard on your system. When you are on a cycle several things happen.
1) We push our bodies out of a homeostatic state and decrease natural test production. What this does is stresses the body and especially the endocrine system. This forces our body into a fight or flight scenario and we naturally ramp up cortisol production to bring us back to homeostasis. (Cortisol is the active steroid in cortizone a corticosteroid used in the medical profession to decrease swelling), so what you are doing by the very nature of AAS is suppressing your own coping hormones and chemical mechanisms. Incidentally this is one of the causes for a post cycle crash where you shrink faster then you gained. Your body screams to be back into balance and floods the receptors with cortisol forcing a catabolic state thereby shrinking muscle gains to almost their original size. (This is why we do PCT) Now not being in homeostasis is not the only way for our bodies to produce cortisol. The major contributor is emotional stress. When you stress your body produces copious amounts of this steroid to cope and is counterproductive to our end goals when using AAS.
2) While AAS is not chemically additive they can be psychologically addicting. By this I mean the people who only feel good about themselves when on cycle or only work out when blasting because they see no point in it otherwise. These are the people who live on hopes and dreams that juice is going to make them a better person. This is also what leads to the "something to look forward to" syndrome otherwise known as "Hopium"! Since your bodies natural hormone production is effected and thus your coping mechanisms, you are not in the best place to see a situation for what is is.
Tread has a point in choosing to focus on the matters you can change and not the ones you cannot. Life is going to happen regardless of what we do. I know this is easier said then done but it is possible. If you feel you have to focus on something negative you can give yourself permission to do so. But you only give yourself permission to think about it from say 6-6:30 A.M. every day. Eventually you will find you think about it less and less and focus on the things you can change. You should establish a routine. Eat well and often, sleep as much as necessary and continue to work out hard every day. Especially on the days you don't feel like going to the gym. You do not have to feel like your working out to get bigger or better just that you know there will be a positive benefit to doing so and because it is on your routine. This will help with sleeping and eating and general well being. I would avoid antidepressants for now. You sound like a strong minded young man and your body is already going through enough chemical imbalances at the moment. If you finish PCT and allow yourself to come back to homeostasis you might find your ability to cope has increased. Remember chemicals are not always the answer. You need to learn to cope on your own through introspective thought and contemplation its called self reliance brother and is mandatory for having a family. Remember you are doing the right thing by fighting the good fight every day and wanting more for your family and also realize it is no small undertaking having a family and children at 23 or any other age for that matter. However, it is the ultimate maturation process on the way to becoming a man! Nothing will try your patience or mental fortitude like having a family. Again these things in life are unavoidable and you can choose what to focus on. For instance you can focus on your daughter becoming a young woman which cannot change or you can focus on something tangible like her smiles at you and her arms around your neck and kisses on your cheek. These things will not be there forever, one day she will see you differently and will not desire to be so little. Embrace these moments because they will pass and you will say, "I wish I had payed attention to those times". Your doing a good job just by wanting more for you children and they will see it. Remember to cut yourself some slack and embrace the things you can change accept the things you cannot and fear nothing for fear is merely an unproductive emotion!
I apologize for the diatribe but if you have read this far then you have more then demonstrated mental fortitude!
Thank you man I appreciate it! I couldn't get out of the rut I was in n that in itself scared me! I needed to snap out of it n lack of food n sleep I know were not helping. I found no joys in life. now I have found joys in being nice to my family. Bought my fiance flowers, giving her breakfast in bed n massages at night all week. to remind her she is my queen. but more beneficial, to remind ME she is my queen. Its helped a lot. thank you for taking your time to holler at me on the mature and also positive side
Congratulations for pulling yourself out of a funk by focusing on something bigger then yourself brother. I am glad you found some positive words on this site to encourage you! Keep fighting the good fight and remember there are people out there who want to help. You can hit me up any time!
It was hard to get out of n I have been using pills to kind of get over the hump but now I see the light n am focused I am tapering myself down
So when you guys are going through a real rough patch, how do you cope?
tread-mMine is this, and it did not come easy it came from a rock bottom place (not drugs or alcohol) in my life and I made a decision. I decided during rough patches to go over the problems I face today and decide which of these things can I actually have control over today and which of these things will I simply worry about and be able to have no impact on them? By doing so I can put all my focus on things I can control and try to forget about things out of my control. Sounds easy enough but it makes a big difference for me. I noticed in a really rough period that I spent most of my time scrambling trying to fix things I knew I could not fix and that things I could have actually had an impact on that day didn't get tended to. So I focus on the things I can control (ONLY) and the rest will fall where it falls and where it was going to fall anyway, whether I worried about it or not. The other thing I guess is "don't sweat the small stuff", lifes to damn short! I stay away from people as well that are just overly serious. Life for me has to be fun and if its not then what's the Fing point? I'll be stone cold serious for a long time once this ride ends so for now its fun and funny and if that does not work for you then stay the F away from me, or I'm going to hurt your feelings! Lol...for me kinda like starmonkey, my 2 hardest were my Dad in 2003 and my mom the day after Thanksgiving this last yr. I was lucky enough to be by both their sides as they passed so consider myself blessed but that's some rough shit seeing the constants in your life fade away. The 2 people that gave up all their dreams so you could see yours and would do it again if given the chance. Yesterday is gone, tomorrow is yet to be written so today is all you know you have, make it count. Easier siad than done I know but if you knew for a fact today was your last you might take the work out of it and enjoy it a bit.
Right right i feel it. Idk what it is but i just seem so negative over everything, stressed. idk if it has anything to do with me getting married in a few weeks. but i already have 2 kids with her so idk really what the difference will be. Back in the day i used to drink my pains away. now i have kids n more bills i don't have the money and.don't really even want to drink a bottle a day. Im not going to lie while on cycle i smoked a few times to calm my nerves n also pct but i don't want to resort to that neither. i can't sleep though Im so stressed.
weird part is is all of my lifts are still strong lol. But i don't even feel like eating! Idk what it is
Btw Im going to be 24 next month. so Im sure you guys can relate maybe?
for example when my daughter just turned 2 the other day, i told mu bro like ya that's just one more year closer to her wanting boys n them wanting to slut her out. like that shit is years away but i lost sleep over it
tread-mLol...yeah that's dads being dads is all. Not that I like to spread the advice on meds but I will say, when my Dad was going through his issues at some point it seemed like the weight of the world came down be,ause I knew my Mom would need. A lot not being a stron person, knew her house would need remodling and then your Dad dying on top of all your own problems. Finally got to where as you were talking, I could not sleep, stressed as hell, neck stiff all day etc etc.m went to doc that put me on low dose lexapro and in 2 weeks the weight of the world lifted off! I kind of slowly took myself off of them dosing down and stayed fine after stopping the drug. Its like it corrected the part of the brain that overloads with stress. You still have the stress but it takes away the constant from it and allowed me to find some happy spots. I just got to where you could have told me I won the powerball and to me it would have been like you told me I won a candy bar, just lost the zest for life there for a bit but as much as people preach against it , the lexapro just fixed that. I don't think I took them over a month or 2 either and even cut the little 10 mg's in half like after a week and then quartered them in the final couple weeks tapering down. I don't like people using that stuff but if it helps you get out of a place of hopelessness and see the good in life even if you are surrounded by responsibility then I guess I'm all in for that! You have a lot of weight on you at 24 and a new life ahead with a new marriage etc so that would kinda stress anyone. Just a day at a time, try to quit worrying about the little ones dating. I did too bt she grew up fine and never let me down so it does not have to be the way you're thinking in your mind. I basically kept a tight rope on her since I knew guys like us are in the world!!! Lol
Thanks man. are you against smoking? Im taking my lifting real serious so Im trying to lay off the alcohol because I've read a lot it hinders gains. i dont have insurance but man i need something. like you said, if someone told me i hit the power ball id just be like, cool. or i would be excited and then an hour later be real depressed like bi polar type shit. i don't even feel like myself
I have felt the overwhelming feelings of stress and loss of excitement for life and have found anitdepressants like Lexapro tremendously helpful to shake off those feelings. You are at a time in your life where it is important for yourself and your family that you feel positive and have a good outlook. I am not on any depression meds now, but when I was feeling the way you do and stressing about everything to the point that I had trouble getting excited about anything and just seemed to find reasons not to be happy the meds helped.
Walmart pharmacy has a list of antidepressants that are only $4for 30 day supply and you can get a perscription at most any walk in clinic cheap. Dont worry that these feeling wont go away because if u seek out a little help maybe a few months of meds will help get you through the rough times. Go to Walmart ask and go see a doc if you are willing. And for me when depressed when I smoked i got a headchange but the worry stayed.
So if I go to a wall mart pharmacy n just tell them Im depressed? n want lexapro?
You have to get a perscription from a doctor but you can do that at most walk-in clinic
And just pay cash for the visit. You could go to walmart first and ask for a list of $4 drugs and bring that list to show the Dr. so they can help you pick an anti depressant. I do not believe that Lexapro is on the $4 list (you could ask how much it is at Walmart)but CELEXA is on the $4 list and is about identical to Lexapro.
So go to a walk in clinic tell them you are depressed and ask if they would recommend Celexa because you have no insurance and it is so inexpensive at Walmart.
Thank you
Amen brother!
Losing my father. It was 12 years ago.
When I ran out of test cyp. On TRT lol! Fucking miserable for 10 days. That shit ain't happening again.
CleyonIf that was the wost problem I'd ever faced I would be an extremely happy man!