Newbie - Need input from the 50+ crowd
Hi All -
Just joined not too long ago, I am 50 male.been on TRT (Axiron) for 6-7 months now.
Getting tired of it (gel) and not satisfied with results (mood, libido, strength, etc).
I am seriously thinkin about going the injection route. By doc is not big on it at all and besides I would only get the minimum from him. So I am looking at alternate sources.
I have been reading and thinking that I want to start cruise (forever trt) on Test E or C. Seems like I would want to use some Test P to get things going first.Maybe some Arimidex at some point.
My last BW showed my Total test at 294. I have since been on double the dosage of Axiron but do not have BW on it yet. Thinking I am probably around the 400's maybe.
Anyway...looking for advice, input , etc from some fellow 50+'s.
(I am doing a ton of reading but always best to get it straight from someone too)
Thanks,
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Well...convincing my doc to switch me over to injections was not hard as I thought.
I called them Friday morning, left a voice mail saying the double dosage of Axioron under the arms was causing a rash (which is true actually) I asked maye if injections would be better.
A couple hours later the nurse called back and said yes, come in anytime to get first inj.
I was there that same day after noon and got a 200mg shot of Test C. They first told me to come back in a month for second inj. I insisted that I do not want to cycle up and down by waiting 4 weeks so they said ok, come back in 3 weeks and we will go from there.
Well...this is a start in the right direction.
tread-mNot 50's yet brother but in a few years I'm comin back and we're gonna do this thang!
Lucky young whipper snapper Btard lmao! ive found chicks dig zimmer frames lol
Thanks all for the replies.
I am getting a better picture of what I should do now. Basically I need to take it slow at first, figure out what works for me and adjust if needed.
I may start with 200 - 250mg/wk T as some have suggested. Then see where I stand with a blood test.
your talking a cycle there. Cruise is 125-250mg/wk. Bodybuilder/Athlete will cruise higher, then blast with a cycle to build muscle and maintain. Gels are crap and if your doc wont go for the injections, just find a new doc. Thats what I had to do. Way cheaper (for me anyways) to get it from a UGL and self medicate. I pay $50 for a blood screen from an online source, and I paid nearly $200 for the same test once my insurance paid. WTF! Most insurance do not deem TRT as medically necessary so they dont pay shit. If you want to feel good again based on your low T reading I would start with 200mg/wk. Do a shot and get bloods done on the 6th day and you will have an idea where to go regarding dosage. You will get a spike then a taper and you want the low end of your taper to be in the 750 plus range. Everyone is different but see how it goes. Its not likely you will need an AI with such a low dosage but have it on hand for sure in case.
I have some gear on the way.
Test P
Test E
Arimidex.
Seems like a common theme is to run the Test P for 4 weeks (kick start) and run a 12 week run of the Test E. Also have the Arimidex for Estrogen control.
What dosage should I run of each?
If you are looking to do TRT level (just replacement level) your doc would probably start you at 1ml Test E (usually C) every 2 wks. Depending on how often you want to pin you would get more consistent levels pinning more frequently, say 1/2ml each week Test E. The Prop 4 weeks kickstart is for a "Blast" or "Cycle" (for bodybuilding) where you want to bring your levels up quickly to where their max 1/2 life overlap would eventually be. Or if you want to use the Prop for TRT like others do who don't mind pinning more frequently you can go with the prop 1/2ml every other day to start. The Arimidex for estrogen control is person specific, on cruise I don't know. If your bf% is on the higher side you may have more need for estrogen control. On Cycle an avg dose is .25 eod. You can adjust as needed. Some do not use it unless they have gyno symptoms such as itchy, painful, or swollen nipples from what I have read. I have not had the issue. Good Luck! Keep Reading!
My doc didn't wanna give me shots either. My family Dr said just say these words "I can't tolerate the gel" BAM, Test Cyp Prescription mailed to me in 3 days! The starting dose he put me on is 1ml every 2 weeks. My BW after 1 week had my test at 848 I think. I was self medicating anyway but its good to have the script for traveling! Funny, he hasn't called with the results yet? Thanks for reminding me! LOL ;-P
Good Luck! Check out the old bastards registry also in the over 40 trt forums, that's where I started. Don't let tread-M scare you, he doesn't really wanna see your junk! LOL ;-P
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/over-40-trt
Try posting here mate, plenty of skilled people in there regarding TRT
Oh yeah, that Arimidex is some good shit. Test will be through the roof! ;)