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Test and Winny water retention

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So I have yet to pin but have experimented with a few orals and had a very positive experience with some some winny. I only had a bottle and did a 20/40/50/30 4 wk cycle for spring break and saw some really good results and was still gaining 6 wks afterwards. However my joints were creaking like an old house and it took 3 weeks of some old man glucosamine joint supplement to get back to normal. Im ready to do a real 12 week test cyp cycle 250mg twice a week and I just wanted to know if the test water retention helps with the joints so I could add in some winny and stretch it the last 6 weeks and maybe at higher mgs.

And people have asked stats and cycle so 25 6ft 225-230lbs 10-15%Bf and I intend on testcyp 12 wks at 250mg twice a week I just want to add some winny because it really shapes my muscles well I just want to know if the test helps with the dry joints b/c that part was uncomfortable

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Anyone take winny at the end of their cycle and for how long? Like I said I tried it for 4 weeks and maxed at 50mged and got impressive results but I hear of people taking up to 100mgs for 6wks. Im sure this would yield impressive results I just want to know if the joints could handle it.

RickRock1086's picture

Another oral that help to keep joins lubricated is Dianabol due to his high water retention at 30-50 mgs/day. Dbol combined with Test E at 500 mg/ week split doses it's gonna give you big results. That was my first and only cycle so far, i went from 150 to 177 in 12 weeks. Hope this helps. But then again an oral cycle only it's not the best choice(personal experience) If you can't deal with the joint pain simply discontinue the use and try a different compound such as Masteron or Primobolan. Then again hope this helps you mate, cheers.

fast48's picture

Orals only is a bad mix dude. We all learned the hard way. So please research. Forums....anabolic cycles....First cycle. You want to grow and keep those gains. Typical first cycle is the right way so you're growing and understand how your body grows and reacts to each chemical. If you mix two or three...how do you find that one that'd messing up your health? If your diet is on and you lift hard...first cycle will be utmost important.

Test e/cyp for 12 Weeks. Adex just incase you have gyno issues. Clomid and nolva for pct. Theres forums for pct....injection sites and pin sizes. Theres pin venders. Research and grow properly/safely.

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25 6ft 225-230lbs Like I said I just experimented with winny anavar and adrol the past couple of yrs so whatever I'll probably get hate for doin only orals so far but I only tried them for 4 wks at a time and when I do it again I want to do it for real

fast48's picture

He'd get flak if wording or posting of stats was odd. He upped his stats and agree... I've tried the oral only as well. I still sweat when inj day happens. Lol. But like ya say...500/wk split dose and he'll get swole.. First pin cycle the eod wore me out but it was a good,cycle. Everyone will assist when poster is genuine. We all bust balls. Lol

semperfi7272's picture

I was in the military so Im not really afraid of needles from all the shots they give but they use to call me Shakes and the thought of tryin to put a needle and my ass and aspirate seemed like it would probably leave a painful knot but after watchin these little "kids" with hormone deficiencies pinning themselves in their quads on youtube I think its time to man up

fast48's picture

As long as pin is right size....study inject sites. It is nervous deal first few times. I'm scared of needles yet at fully tatted. Lol! It's not too bad. Just read forums so you're familiar with everything. Read sources for good reviews. And grow. You got this!

PapaPumps's picture

hell i love pinning i pin ED sometimes 3 shots so don't worry bout it have an experienced friend show u the first time though u don't want to hit a nerve and learn to aspirate so u don't die..damn one time back in the day my friend hit my sciatic nerve, i thought he knew what he was doing apparently not..ii immediately jumped higher then i ever have in my life my head almost hit the ceiling ..good luck

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and I know I'll need some adex but Im not sure how often I saw it has a 3 day half life and the nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/50/50 pct and besides the 500mg/wk testC base Im not sure about the actual winny dosage I should do I just know I want to add it in from past experience

fast48's picture

Post your age...height...weight and cycle. Can't help buy a car when we don't know STATS