posted Thu, 05/24/2012 - 15:58
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The last couple of times ive injected, (just started pinning quad instead of glutes) the next few days i have this flat feeling. I definitely don't feel like wanting to jump out of my skin.
Once at the gym, blood starts flowing, get focused & warmed up i have had some of the best workouts i can recall but at work & at home just don't feel well.
This lasts for about 3 days after shot then starts to wear off till next pin
Doing 500 mg of Test-E & 400 mg of EQ once a week
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Thanks everyone for your advice. Just frustrating when you are offered up different opinions. Kind of leaves you where you started.
I suppose unlike maths where 1 + 1 will always be 2 with what is discussed here its kind of what works for the individual.
Self uppercut given to myself for anyone i offended. I think i know what it is. Not only does this gear cause aggression in the gym. Its showing its ugly head as "forum aggression" too
AnonI believe the confusion stemmed from you saying "test blend" or whatever it was ( I'm not going back down to find it lol... ) and then test E. A blend/mix would have different esters obviously requiring different frequency of injection BLAH BLAH you already know this just saying
Test E 2x a week
Test mix/blend - depends on what esters are in it
Yes i think so but that's where i thought it didn't matter because Test-E can still be a weekly pin.
Basically my source knew i was only wanted to pin once weekly but didn't have any Test-E at that moment. He said he gad Test-300 which is a blend. It was then mentioned in away its better because while E alone would take awhile to kick in (3 weeks or so) this blend also has Test-C, Test-P & Test-A & these shorter esters will kick start the cycle alot quicker.
So yes, while some of these Tests, level wise would be gone by end of week the longer ones would keep overall levels stable
Im the first to say im on a steep learning curve so just go with my gut on what ive been told so far & who the advice has come from. Those people that had given me this advice are pretty high up the food chain here so i respect what they say 100%
Thats how it came to be anyhow
AnonI know you don't want to hear it but with P and A involved you're going to want to pin it every other day that's just how it is lol. This is my first short ester cycle and I know at first it's a little nerve racking, but I pin every single day now and sometimes 2x a day with TNE - it isn't that bad bro you'll get used to it fast. Stability is worth it though trust me I had the same problem with tren which is why I went to ED injections - made a world of difference. The half life of the acetate ester is 28-36 hours and prop is 1.5-2 days. So basically even if you've been "on" for a while with the test mix you're still, irregardless, going to have your test levels jumping around because of these short esters. Just my .02 in the end it's your choice... but I PROMISE if you do EOD you WILL feel better. Your source is misinformed if that's the info he gave you lol...
If you just can't pin EOD, even splitting it up into 2x a week would still make a big difference.
Cool brother. You know its never anything personal. Just good healthy discussion/debate etc.
Thanks for the time you took in explaining even if its not necessarily what i wanted to hear 'laugh through a grimace"
Man enough to admit it and take it on the chin. +1
But I still say you posted because you have a legit issue. Maybe taking the below advice and forgetting about what 1 guy told you will help. Maybe?
Oh dam you are a Karma Wielder
MMm so what you giveth you can also taketh away lol
I almost never take karma. ALMOST never
Listen to the advice given to you and in the future, of you're not prepared for feedback of different perspectives and opinions, then don't post. When you post up advice questions you're going to get just that ,ADVICE! You should be open to it and if you disagree then you do so respectfully. Firing darts at guys trying to help is a bad look! Run your test e 2x weekly. As stated below, your levels are fluctuating. If I'm not mistaken test e peaks at day 4-5 and is depleted by day 10. You'll want to pin every 4th day to maintain stability. If its a blend that has prop or pp, you can pin less more often to take advantage of the short ester.
Mate
All my following words are written respectfully. There is a reputable forum thread on this very site with many users commenting positively on its content. I consider myself an experienced gym person but a novice when it comes to AAS. this will be only my 3rd cycle so i read it & at the end of it there are examples of cycles for beginners.
He talks about taking Test-E weekly while others he mentions the need to have EOD or ED
This is simply an example of why it can be frustrating because links been posted here, left here as a great article for beginners to gain knowledge but either someone is wrong or your both right in different ways.
I hope you appreciate where im comin from that's all
Oh & the link is
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?77975-Steroid-Usage-Basics-For-...
& cycle suggestions are down near bottom of his post
AnonIf you didn't ACTUALLY want advice ( you obviously just want someone to tell you what you want to hear ) why the hell did you post this? Anyways... the correct answers have already been given and you choose to act like you somehow know more than the vets here, some of which have been doing this about as long as you've been alive. I don't care how old you say you are, you look like a know it all kid to me with that level of maturity. Man up and pin 2x a week, otherwise, enjoy the roller coaster.
Bro, your getting answers but your not listening. I think you got advice from one person before jumping into aas use and didn't understand and took the advice wrong or told them some bad info on which compound you were gonna use. I would suggest you do a lot more research on esters and half lives and you will see why everyone is telling you pinning once a week is not enough and IS YOUR PROBLEM. Its like you only wanna hear, what you wanna hear like you already have an answer in your head. Which ever compound your using weather it is test e or a "test blend", should be pinned more than once a week. Your experiencing a hormonal rollercoaster. What exactly are you pinning? I seen you posted that you had purchased Lixis Labs. Are you pinning the Lixis Labs Test 400? If so, that test blend has test prop, test cyp, and test e and should be pinned every other day.
OK what ive been missing is the Adex. I thought if i had higher than norm estrogen levels wouldn't i be seeing nipple soreness,swelling that sort of thing. See again ive been told only really need to use something like Adex if i feel those types of symptoms & than when they have gone i can stop using adex..
Thats where its so frustrating. Whos right & whose wrong
Show me wtf i asked for advice on length of time between pinning. Maybe there should be some type of IQ test you have to pass before you're allowed to post replies in this forum.
"amazing human being"
Im just a bloke from Australia who hits the gym like everyone else here. All i wanted to know was if anyone else has taken gear & not felt well for a few days after. Best replies ive had is possible blood pressure & keeping up my B vitamins.
Sorry Man you have read it wrong. I am using a "test mix" mean exactly that. A mixture. How does saying that put me on crack. Not nice, just foolish
The comment about please stay away from steroids dude bit. mmmmm i'll choose to ignore that
No need to comment back since you have nothing more i need to know but thanks
biggerthanyouAgreed. Prob 20 yr old know it all
dude please wtf. "Some know it all 20 year old". Look me up & you'll see my age. Its not rocket science.
Its like your advertising that steroids kill braincells with dumb arse comments like that.
biggerthanyouI dont care enough about u or ur dumbass cycle to look it up...YOU are actually the one giving roids a bad name with ur stubborness against good advice. Good day.
biggerthanyouBro everyone know twice a week pinning is better for test e...just like for test prop everyone knows its better to shoot everyday rather than every 2 days...its simple half life. You need to research half lifes and understand what that means.
I have to ask, what gives with this pin twice a week reply. Active life for Test enth is 15 days so talking ups & downs in levels doesn't make sense.
Also here is one of the most reputable sites on the net providing cycle suggestions. No mention here of EOD or twice weekly pinning.
Like i said in comment further down while i appreciate all your replies alot of it is opinion & not factual.
Whats that old comment talk is usually 90% opinion & 10% fact or what's the other one
"Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks."
dbolzBest keep your assholes to your self then. You cant seem to comprehend what a short ester is or does. Half life is whst matters not active life. Good luck with your cycle...
dbolzHow long you have been pinning? Sounds to me you are still in the adjusting phase. Like others suggested best split the doses much less up's and downs
6th week 1st cycle back in over a year. Im running actually a test mix so it has both short & long Esters.
Ive had others here tell me once a week is fine. Its based alot on opinion isnt it otherwise there'd be alot more agreement on these matters
dbolzIf your blend has short esters then thats your answer, when the short ester is out of your system you feel flat. Unfortunately you will have to pin that blend ed/eod depending on the short ester to avoid going flat. Same thing happens when you use sustanon. Keep in mind eq is a bit of a bitch till it kicks as far as anxiety/mood goes. Are you using any AI btw?
U got an ai? Idk, maybe your missing your "sweet spot".
Could be test flu, but in my experiances test flu usually goes away after a day or two after pin.
Also, during cycle i get very tired aswell and i believe this is called steroid fatige? It happens to me about midway through cycle when i start getting really good gains. Try to double up on B6 and B12 for energy. Hope that helps a little.
Thanks i will try this. Im at week six so from comments made so far i think you're closet to mark
Also, i believe you wanna inject test e twice a week. Try to split injection 250x 2 ew. Your levels are low, that couuld be part of the reason you feel run down.
What do you mean my levels are low?. I have seen many other discussions where test of the type i am using can be shot once a week.
Experienced users on this forum even say its fine. Would you like to tell Trainbrain that he doesnt know what he is talking about.
Just goes to show a lot of this talk is 90% opinion 10% fact
I guess i should of said that your "test" levels are unstable. I have never ran test e, i tend to stick to test blends, but from what i have researched and what others are telling you test e is optimal at 2 injection ew, helps helps to keep the test and estrogen levels stable.
Now, i'm sure Traibrain is much more experianced than i am so if i am wrong then someone feel free to correct me.
Just my .02.
Thats exactly what im on, a test blend but Test-E does make it stay in your system longer. If you were on a test blend but pinning EOD or similar your actually wasting the longer ester i would think. At least that's how it was explained to me here by a lot wiser & knowledgeable friend
I am On Adex
SIGH.... Alright man, i'm gonna leave this alone, but i will leave with this......
I'm no veteran by any means, never claimed to be. But, i'm not brand new at this either. I have ran 4 succesfull cycles over the past 2 years and i ALWAYS pin my test blends x2 ew. And if you look around a little bit you will find that alot of the vets on here prefer to pin test blends eod (which i plan to do on my upcoming cycle).
You claim that pinning eod or ed that you think you waste the longer esters, well, think about how your wasting the short esters by pinning once a week??
X2. Need to inject 2x wk. To keep your blood levels stable.. Or you just keep nose diving bro