posted Wed, 05/02/2012 - 18:33
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SATURATED DAMN!
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Well shit my test just aint working no more! to many cycles to close together has saturated my receptors and ive got to pull out and rest them for awhile! over the past year ive ran about 8 cycles, some of them for only 2 weeks, almost all of them for 1 month, but this last one I was shooting for a longer run and after a month and a half receptors are so full im not responding to my test dose like I should. So back to the drawing board and see how much of this cycle I can keep, and what I might do different next cycle.
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Saturated receptors is a big time myth sorry.
If you're having trouble gaining it's because of how big you are, not because of not responding to gear.
http://houseofbodybuilding.com/forum/index.php?topic=987.0;wap2
^ explains the hows and whys that receptor saturation is a myth.
You may be at the stage where you just need to run higher total dosages to see any results.
yeah well you can call it what ever you want but the fact is gains have stopped, libido is down, no more pimples, endurance is down, all the things associated with test is not working anymore. this isnt the first time it has happened to me, and when it has happened in the past I take a break and then come back and all the signs of cleared receptors are back. So if it is a Myth then so be it but its the best explanation for what happens when you run to long on juice, when you come off, and go back on! So call it what you want, I call it saturated!...My body is no where near as big as it can get, I was bigger than this just 5 months ago, and my test doses are 100mg/d prop and 500mg/w cyp, thats plenty to see results. And it was starting the cycle, but tapered off after a little over a month.
OK.... I agree....and disagree. I think you may very well need to run higher/different doses...but I also think that giving your body/receptors time away from gear is a good idea as well. Keeping your body off-guard is critical to continued growth.
But remember---if 500 mg of test per week were enough to ensure continuous growth, then nobody would ever have to go any higher. I didn't see a huge difference from 1500 to 3000 per week, but when I went to 750 per week and added 2ml of Tren and 2Ml of test prop per day, the results were fantastic.
If you're not comfortable going higher, I would take a month---maybe six weeks off with no gear. I just hope you don't get depressed or lose stamina.
"I didn't see a huge difference from 1500 to 3000 per week, but when I went to 750 per week and added 2ml of Tren and 2Ml of test prop per day"
Ahhhh goth brother, how could you NOT notice a difference from that? thats only 1400mg/of tren weekly, and 1400mg/prop, ofcourse I could grow off of that, but eventually that will come to a point that it wont work and then what? add more or give the receptors a break? you see what im saying? I already added more then usual and the results stopped. The more I add the harder the crash will be in the end as well. I did high doses and may do them again but I didnt like the end result when coming off, nor the sides when on. Today I chose to take a break and come back in another couple months!
And I think that's exactly what you should do before increasing doses or adding compounds. But remember, your days of effectiveness at 500 are numbered...and they are numbered for EVERYONE. Sooner or later, you either go up, change compounds, or live with diminished gains.
That's the hard-core reality of AAS.
500mg/w cyp was just the back up dose, I also mentioned the 100mg/d prop! regardless I understand what your saying!
Yep...the cyp keeps blood plasma levels nice and stable. I took just a measly 4 weeks off and it helped me tremendously.
If taking a break and then going back to the low dose works for him then thats what he should do. Piss on doing monster doses and stacks if you dont have to. If I got gains from 500mg pr week of test then I wouldnt stop until I didnt. For the price alone nice to be a cheap AAS user kind of like a cheap drunk.
I didn't say he should---but at his age he is going to see the day where 500 does him absolutely no good, and taking a break may not be effective...and that day may have come.
Read my posts more carefully before spouting off.
And by the way---don't push it.....You were banned about 10 days ago, and by all rights should be as quiet as a mouse pissing on cotton...
tread-mBOOOOOM!!!!! Nooka don't know not to F with the tren train! What seems to work for me pretty well is sort of as you mention, mix it up. I bounce different compounds in and out , raise test, lower test, play with testes, raise test again..really play with testes. Bouncing compounds around helps me a lot. I still hit flats and I'm in one now but I dropped the test down to half trt for a few days here as well as tren now I'll staircase back up starting next week over two weeks. Just anything to kinda throw the body into "take action" mode. In others words, get up off your dead ass axis and act like you give a F!
THANK YOU!!! That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Very controversial, there are many studies contradicting this research also. Where do you go when your on 2g test a week and your body is not responding? Surely you dont expect anyone to top up to 3g?????? eroids promotes safety in using AAS
No I wouldn't suggest using 3g of test, I'd suggest running other compounds at higher dosages to see results.
Personal preference aside, I think testosterone side effects just get out of control at over 1g a week, even with an AI on board you still would have a large surplus of estrogen from the massive aromatization going on.
I'd like to see the studies showing receptor downregulation from AAS useage. Not being a dick, honestly would like to see them. It makes no sense that your body would stop responding to one of it's most necessary androgens.
The other thing to consider is there is good reason many IFBB pros resort to using slin and HGH cocktails along side AAS. There just gets a point where AAS alone just doesn't cut it.
But we are not ifbb pros bro
although train looks like he could be one
tread-mI'm sure you're alternating compounds pretty regularly? I do the same thing though brother, flate n out etc.