what do i tell my bud about his bad decision.....
okay, i just got done talking to a buddy of mine who is pinning winny only. a few weeks ago i was so ignorant that i wouldn't have known he was fucking up. but after reading this forum and receiving a few light cuffs in the back of the head in the right direction from you guys i know hes fucking himself up.
i told him any cycle without test is fucking up and he said he doesn't want to gain, he wants to cut.
i told him any cycle without a long ether is fucking up and he said he doesn't want to pin for more than 6 weeks.
i told him winny is horrid for your joints and he said hes only doing it this once and it shouldn't hurt him too bad.
i asked him if he is planning any PCT (which i don't even know wtf you would do for this trainwreck)... he said and i quote "What the fuck is PCT?"
finally i said you are just throwing your money in the trash and risking your health and he finally asked what he should be doing...
i know what hes doing wrong, but there i drew a blank. can you guys give me some info on what he can do to correct this? hes 27 yrs old, 5'6, 190, gotta be in the upper teens in body fat and hes looking to cut up.
i convinced him to atleast get on 300mg Test E and told him i would help him with aromasin/clomid. i told him to drop the winny until his last 4 weeks (but i think im wrong and he needs to get rid of it altogether.)
i didn't know anything like this until the last few weeks because of reading this forum and i thank you guys for that. so what should i tell this joker about what to do for himself. hes set on pinning and i don't want him to make the mistakes i have made out of ignorance.
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If he wants to cut the amount of testosterone in his body, that cycle works PERFECTLY. Maybe that is what he meant?
I had a similar body type at 27. Tell him to play basketball 1 hour 3 days a week or run 2 miles 4 days a week, and squat heavy 3 times a week plus normal lifting routine. Works great.
hand him a little note. written upon this note is one word: EROIDS.COM
If he refuses to listen to reason than just allow "natural selection" to run its course
tread-mShort cycles are fine with short esters usually in combination but as you say, he is dead set on a train wreck so a train wreck he may need. I can assure you as he see's you achieve while he goes through this screw up and then see's you continue to achieve later as he goes further down the crapper he will listen. People in my circle don't tell me what they are going to do they ask me what the should do for a specific goal so you let him see you do it right and you will be his go to guy brother. Just work through example here and he will soon ask questions rather than make statements. You did your part now its tough love time I guess. I don't doubt he will just run one cycle though as I did.....one after another! Lol
Anonwell first prob I see other than age, is that winny with or without test isn't going to cut shit up... it WILL damage your liver, it will raise your cholesterol, the bad stuff, It will LOWER your good cholesterol... his body fat isn't low enough for him to even see a real cut... cuts come from diet and training.. winny dries you out ... removes estrogen from your joints as well.. tell him if he doesn't bother to research and read and do more research and read then he might be better off using his cash to wipe his ass..
this is exactly what i needed. thanks!
Anoni forgot to mention the HORRIBLE ACNE, greasy hair and hair loss ;-) my bad...
Increased risk of infection, bad pip...
well, i guess i didn't stress that once i mentioned he was wasting money and risking his health that he was open to suggestion. now i don't know what really to tell him since hes dead set on pinning but doesn't want to gain. what i researched for myself was to gain 20 lbs. so i didn't look into winny or anything else @ all. any suggestions from the educated crowd?
Frankieif he wont listen to you then let him be bro ,some people just wont listen ,you could always show him this thread and link him upto a couple of others ,get him educated and mybe just maybe he will make the right choice .
Nothing you can do. He's made his decision. It's called learning the hard way and that's just how it has to be. Better him than you.
Biggest lie ever in the world of steroids.
If he doesn't change the 'cycle', maybe he's doing it once ...
one of the biggest lies ever in general
lol true
No1Hes probably one of those people who thinks the steroid is going to burn fat. All he needs is diet