posted Sun, 09/23/2012 - 11:06
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test eq winny?
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1-16 400mg test e split
1-16 600mg eq split
8-16 50mg winstrol oral a day
nolva pct
thinking about using hcg during cycle too since my last test e cycle had by boys looking like raisins.
i don't want to blow up this winter. i plan on starting this cycle in december and being lean and mean by spring.
what yall think?
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IF YOU do use winny get some glucosamine chondroitin complex to lubricate the joints.
you guys are great. i love this site.
Drop the winny until you can get your bf% in the single digits. If you run it at your current bf all your going to get is some soar joints and some strength gain.
cdaddy7Thank you for that tidbit bc I was under the impression that 12% or lower was where the winny worked best, but you say single so that's what I will go with then...U learned me something today
Yes bro 9% would be the highest i would recommend anyone to run it at. This is why you see a lot of people say winny is no good unless your prepping for a show,bs. Winny will do majic on a lean body, you just got to be lean enough to see it.
cdaddy7Is the same with var as well?
The leaner the better but with var you got more play, around 12% or so.
cdaddy7Good deal BB, that's what I thought, butthought it was the same for winny too...Now I know the difference...Thanks my man you helped me to give better sound advice
Not that you need all that much help, every time im about to type something i find you have already said it.
cdaddy7Thanks BB, glad we r on the same page...I'm just tryn to help out these young guys, just like I would hope they would me if the tables were turned
IMO dump the winny...
Dial in your diet and save your liver the aggravation, I don't forsee any excessive retention with that test/eq cycle that would warrant a dry out finisher
My .02
cdaddy7Here's my cycle option lay out
Week 1-18 TEST E @ 400mg/week split
Week 1-16 EQ @ 600mg/week split
Week 13-18 Winstrol 50mg/daily
Liv52 and Milk Thistle daily for liver support and protection with Winstrol
Arimidex .25mg e3d or Aromasin 12.5mg EOD staring no later than week 3
Start PCT 15 days after last Test E injection
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
good shit bro I came in to help but looks like you got him covered +1
i like it. Thanks!
Hcg 10-18 500iu split. Cdaddy has your cutter spot on!
Nolva only PCT?
cdaddy7Yep...he needs Clomid
i have aromasin on hand during cycle if i need it, but i doubt it with lower test. and i have never noticed anything special running clomid/nolva as opposed to just nolva with my type of cycles. if i was running a gram of test a week i would be more concerned but not with 400mg test. never triend EQ but i think its right up my wheelhouse for what i want.
8 wks is a bit hard on the liver. I much prefer the layout caddy has put together, 6 weeks winny instead.
Make sure your liver supps are sorted with this cycle, winny can be tough on it.
clomid is not about the estro, its to kickstart LH and bring natural test production back faster.
cdaddy7Exactly!! +1
10-4. how about the rest ? is 8 weeks at the end w/ 50mg of winstrol okay? I am trying two new compounds this cycle. I have never been concerned about cutting before as the sport i am involved in has no weight class. but i feel clumsy all puffed up and want to try something different.
cdaddy7No I only recommend 6 week run on oral winny bc of stress on the liver...The way I set your dosages with the EQ will cut you the way you desire...This is for you to understand the PCT combo and why...
Clomid and Nolva actions
Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testes make more testosterone....That right there is the difference. Doing this helps your testes come alive....Nolvadex stimulates the biosynthesis of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) that in turn initiate both intra-gonadal testosterone production and spermatogenesis as well as systemic testosterone secretion and virilization. The blood flow brings GnRH into the anterior pituitary where endocrine cells synthesize and produce FSH and LH. Nolvadex helps with LH(needed for natural testosterone) and FSH(helps produce sperm) in the pituitary but doesn't block estrogen from the pituitary--it blocks estrogen in your chest with the breast tissue.
there is your answer aove from cdaddy
old stats. i'm about 13% now. got kinda puffy a few months back at the end of a 600mg test/dbol cycle.
cdaddy7I saw ur stats...your bf% is kinda high for winny...you need to lose a little bit more to maximize winnys potential...may get that bf found 12-13% and it would def be beneficial