+ 4 SOURCE BASHING
Not every source is a good source here on eroids. Some will provide bad service.....some will provide bad products......and some won't provide any service or products at all. Eroids exists as a place for people to chip in their 2 cents about suppliers they feel are good ones.....or... suppliers they feel are less than legitimate.
But we draw the line at 2 cents. That's your spending limit. If you insist on engaging in a vendetta with review after review after ball-bashing review, followed by blood tests, DNA analysis, hair samples, photos of your shrinking arms....etc, etc...we ARE going to shut you down. If a source has left you an unhappy camper then make your review ONCE and move on. If a supplier is bad, it'll be decided by committee...NOT by you. I don't give a shit if you have a video-taped confession of a supplier strapped in a chair...crying and saying how sorry he is for taking everyone's money, you aren't going to make a career out of bashing them.
WHY????
Because your word (or test...or expertise...or the size of your balls) doesn't carry any more weight than anyone else's. Your test is NOT the definitive word here, because remember----this is the internet---and it's also a cut-throat business, and you could be anybody, with any set of motives, including a competitor.
So if you've been taken, sorry to hear it. Post your review and move the fuck on to greener pastures. If the source who ripped you off is truly a scammer, the bad reviews will mount up. If he's a selective scammer, then your luck sucks----don't plan any trips to Vegas in the near future.
On the other hand, if you like your source, the same rules apply.....make your case and move on. If you wish to tell people the great news, do so in PMs or give updates on your progress in the supplier intro......and NO, you're not going to give "updates" about how you were scammed.
It's hard enough to find good, legitimate sources for gear anywhere----we aren't about to let one person single-handedly decide what constitutes a good source, no matter how much "evidence" you may have.
- Bookmark
- 4
- 0
Im totally new but all I wanna say is kinda what theBeast said. From what ive seen sofar (and ive been browsing this site for hours at a time). On the reviews for sources people are just rating it by receiving the gear, not by the results. I would be pretty happy myself if I got the gear, yes. But the results are the real thing im looking foward to hearing about too so I know i wanna go back to them again. Just saying...
this is why i decided to become apart of this board bub..you guys are ahead of your time..i continue to be impressed with the level of thoughtfulness,caring,temperment and insight yall show..i hope everyone that comes to this board understands that WE are the ones who must be our brothers keepers. WE all share a common goal...the quest for better..better physique ..better sex..just better..we rise and fall together..make no mistake about that..a crime against one is a crime against all bub. i salute you all. keep pushing cause without the mods and the bros chaos would reign.
Know what I think and i voiced this not to long ago in a sources review.
I think eroids should sticky bad reviews or warnings when there is multiple bad reviews from members above let's say 15 points for a source.
When the source cleans up there act or pays back debt then the sticky can go down.
Anoni got a feeling the fury is about to be unleashed on another one on this board in the days to come and im sure it will be handled properly and aggressivly
And you would be correct....;)
Ahhhh Shit!!!,.............not another one.
AnonIn a case like that, BFG is going to unleash the wolves on them, and let the chips fall where they may.
I have mixed feeling on this.
Limiting an experienced member (who got burned) to one bad review that can easily be buried by 5-10 fanboy shills pumping a sources tires isn't fair to all the newbies we have roaming the halls of Eroids. I just looked at a source's page where the +/- of the users posting was a grand total of +8 for the whole page (not counting Roid's), A FUCKING +8 FOR A WHOLE PAGE.
I don't have an answer to the problem, but limiting a member to one review on the hope that you will catch all of a bad sources sleeper shill accounts isn't it either. Just look at the number of shill acounts NG had/still has, (my guess is you haven't found them all yet).
Also,
Has got to be worth at least 3 reviews!
The alternative is to let the guys who say the source is bad have a flaming match with the guys who say it isn't-----going endlessly back and fourth.
Not gonna happen. That would simply make things even more confusing to someone looking for honest reviews. Anybody who has spent any serious time here knows, or should know, that experienced members carry more validity in their claims.
Again, it's common sense to read reviews extensively, especially if you're going to spend a substantial chunk of change.
A guy who says he was scammed does not get preference over a guy who says he wasn't. If the guy who says he was has a reputation, then that reputation can speak for itself.
While I agree with you on this, I also think a source that has scammed someone should be punished more harshly than a source that has delivered the gear is rewarded.
How about if "you were scammed" you can bring it up/review it every 3 or 5 pages (pick a number). Lets face, most people (newbies) don't look past the first couple of pages (if that).
As I type this, the following warning is getting ready to slip to page 3 on a source's review:
This is the sort of thing that needs to remain fairly front and centre.
I agree 100%.....of course there is the little matter of proving it with irrefutable evidence. May not be the easiest thing in the world. If I knew that a source scammed even ONE person intentionally, I would vote to banish them from eroids forever...the supplier located....and his ass beat down like cheap drugstore cotton.
Some of the PMs that were sent to me by eoids members over the NG thing made me so mad, and at times even almost brought a tear to my eye when I thought of some guy spending his whole paycheck on an order...only to have this maggot take his money and send nothing.
As for the warnings issued by BFG, those are things that can be confrimed, and I agree they should remain front and center.
Anonabsolutely... well said
i have to agree with KMC, while i dont want someone purposely writeing bad reviews over and over again, it is helpful to sometimes be reminded of someone bad experience and not having it buried , if someone gets scammed by a supplier and it is legit, i say let them have it as much as they want, maybe it will keep them from doing it again, problem is how do you determine if it is legit
I think this is easy to sort out with the rep score the source has.
Think you've been scammed, givem a 0% and move on. Think your gear is great, givem 100%. Somewhere in between, rate somewhere in between.
That's an easy and QUICK reference point that is easy to scan and hard to bury. Plus, it let's you know who left the score, you click on their name, and you can get the info on their rep and how long they've been on eroids.
If you get TOO personally invested (I mean, repeated bad reviews, not just one pointed one) then you 1) either have a troll-like agenda, 2) have just too much time on your hands to be so utterly crushed by the loss of a few hundred dollars.
So to me, it becomes clutter. I like the points systems. Easy and quick reference.
If someone doesn't want to be scammed, then they should do what people AREN'T lazy do-----RESEARCH.
If someone's bad review is buried 3 pages back and the guy looking for reviews doesn't read it, then tough shit for him. He should have taken the 3 minutes out of his busy day to read more than the first 3 reviews.
And we don't, and won't try to determine what is, or isn't legit. If we have a long term, high-rep member who posts a bad review, his review is going to carry more weight than yours----every single time. It's up to newbs and others to read and educate themselves. I'm tired of the hand-holding and breast-feeding.
AnonThat's where judgement comes in K..... We have to decide together as a community what we are going to call acceptable and what we aren't.
MODs will be tasked with not just looking at the content of posts, but the author of that content as well.
tread-mLol...yeah at least 3 !
I wish more lab tests were posted on here...
I think the main reason people post that they received their products is because it's a crazy business buying gear online and all about trust when sending someone money for something illegal. Most of us have been scammed before and it's hard to swallow.
Fuck the turn around time if the product is garbage though. Pin the injectables or swallow the Orals and post honest results wether good or bad
eroids is the site to explore
Frankiewhat about labs and there products? as you will know i post often on what i think about certain brands and what not and this sometimes looks like source bashing but its not right? its simply informing people on what i know about different labs/brands ect .
tread-mThe "look" you describe is one of those things an src has to live with. Its like I told one guy recently, he said well my source tell me I should run dbol with my first cycle and close with var why is he wrong and you right in telling me test only. I said brother I didn't say anyone was right or wrong, you asked for my opinion and I gave it. The only information I could give to support my claim was simply this, your source will make money from you , I make nothing by helping you. That did not mean his source was just trying to sell him more product than he needed its just a fact. A source has to deal with the looks he gets because it is just what it is. That does not mean he or she will act out of profit it means there is always that chance. So as to your questiion, if I say one brand is better than another it is my opinion, if you say it there can be that thought it is out of motivation which I have none of. See what I mean? I'm sure you're being honest when you say it but we have a different set of rules in the minds of some and healthy paranoia is good sometimes because there are those as you know who will act of of greed. I don't even bash greed given it is a necessity in society and is not always bad, in fact mostly good....it is what it is though if you know what I mean and I know you do.
Frankieamen to that tread i fully understand what your saying bro.
AnonWhat Gothic is refering to is when people go into the review threads and REPEATEDLY bash the source making multiple reviews over and over again.
They are upset they either lost money or bought bunk gear and they want others to be clear on their actions with the source
AnonThen they better get it done in one review, because their word carries no more weight than anyone else's......we aren't going to let trolls have their way here, and there is no way to verify who is or isn't a troll.
Frankiearrr i see sorry about that guesee i didnt read and understand it fully ,got to agree with that as there is alot of that going on here at the moment .
tread-mThis is a tough topic to explain to newer users. Not too long ago I did some hardcore, very hardcore, research on bad reviews and bashing all over they internet and was amazed. At the time this went on I had a need for a new HGH source and wanted to grab information about as many suppliers as I could and find the good and bad about each. I eventually narrowed down to 10 and went really heavy researching those and eventually got to 3 for test runs. In the process and really on accident, I found something out. I realized that Most of the heavy source bashing was coming from some of the same people. Eventually realized that 10 different sources had the exact same people bashing all 10 and it was all around the exact same time.
It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what was going on. Pretty soon you begin to find links to the people and find people acting under 5 different names and posting identical bad reviews to 10 different sources. So you have to realize and accept at some point that when a new source rolls up they think they have to begin to destroy other sources good names and hype their own name up and the combination starts to bring the new business. What these idiots don't understand is that they have created a need for this to occur. Sort of like negative campaigning, we learn less and less about the actual candidates with every election cycle because they simply know, negative campaigning is more effective than talking about issue and records. What these idiots don't understand in both this and politics is that a better product would come out of a scenario where people and idea's and products would compete against each other in a much better way by merit. Its just not the way the world works anymore unfortunately. We no longer have to go out and just find good product, we have to determine if it is deemed good or bad on merit or if the good or bad reviews were simply part of thiis multi level marketing and anti marketing war that is in occurance.
Goths point is simple, if you are bashing a source constantly you begin to look suspicious. His thoughts here simply protect all of us and also help protect good sources. We have to differentiiate ourselves from the general net in order to get actual information. The net does not have MODS to help clean out the bullshit so what we have here is a gift and its because of the hard work of these few people who for whatever reason have decided to give there time to make factual info the primary benefit of eroids. For us to help these few people by not posting one rant after another is doing our "VERY SMALL PART" to help them and we all benefit from that.
That's an element I had originally intended to hit upon when writing this post, but ended up leaving out. And it's a good point---if someone is so willing to invest such energy into something they can't really get any return on, then there must be an ulterior motive. Nobody's going to convince me they're doing it to "save the world", because if that were the case, they would caution people not to buy from any source, because there's always a degree of risk.
I look suspicious cause i'm brown. but i like the post and after reading all the responses i think you all have an idea of how to handle it. i was about to go on a rampage last week about about getting 200 STRAIGHT BULLSHIT viagra. they spent more money on making it look legit than they did on making it feel legit. but i waited and am still waiting for them to make it right. it is in transit. now the reason i mention it and want everyone to hear me out i didnt do a bad review for several reasons. at first they did give me a hard time about making it right but i think they were making sure i wasnt trying to scam them out of a free reship. that was not the case but people do it. the next factor was, I know this is a good source BUT people need to realize that many of these sources are resellers of other peoples products and may actualy not know if they have sold you a bad product. you need to communicate with them not bash them right away. look at the whole picture. a good source should try to make it right but you have to understand that they may need you to work with them. if they got a bad product and sold it to you they are getting screwed as well. i do business with them and they offered to ship "when i made my next order" no no no. this is not good for me cause aint no telling when i will need more gear or supplies. but we worked it out. Dont get me wrong, when i get my stuff i will test it and if its good i will still write about what happened and advise the rest of the community what not to order and if all is well i will post that they made it right and i will continue to purchase from them. if they send more crap viagra i will let you all know. will i still buy from them YES but not that product for sure, why??? cause i know other products are good. we really need people to understand what eroids is all about. we are not here to hold your hand we are all here to help you make good decisions in everything from purchases to even doing your cycle, workout or diet. at the same time they are here for suppliers of various products to offer service to the members. if you get screwed like hollywood always says "we have left a trail of bread crumbs" doesnt mean there wont be bumps in the road sometimes but if a source does good, good, good then messes up somewhere doesnt mean they deserve your every bash for days upon days. Like Goth said, you may have shitty luck if they are selective scammers or they may have just messed up and have bad service and wont make it right. but for the most part read read read and minimize your chances of suffering losses. you will run into scammers that built up for the big hit *** e.g. NG*** but most will be obvious if you follow the bread crumbs. bash them bash them good and move on. believe me people will read it and take head. when you go over board you look like yo have a motive and look less credible. the mods do read your stuff believe me.
THAT IS ALL
If I was a new guy looking for a review and saw a bad one that you had written, that would cause me concern. Your rep is at 85, and you've been here a while.
I encourage anyone who feels they have had a bad experience to write an extensive review about it....and to try to get it resolved with the supplier. If they don't want to resolve it to your satisfaction, then I think that should be part of your review as well.
If a supplier is continuously engaging in bad business practices, then it's only a matter of time before they go belly-up.
you have seen how i write, i try to tell the whole story, good and bad. I will be writing a review in a couple days and i will mention the whole experience not just that i got 200 crap viagra. the source in my opinion is decent and I will use again but everyone needs to know not to buy that particular product, after my review, you buy that product its your own damn fault when you get crap. Please guys, read more than page 1 of the reviews. I usually go back a ways and have seen top sources with consistent good and bad reviews. they end up on top cause people are talking about them not because they are the best. I am not even on cycle and I come here just to read and try to stay on top of whats going on so my next run will come smoothly cause i am somewhat informed.
That is all.
tread-mNo I think you hit it perfectly. I don't even get too caught up in the ml short thing, hell it is what it is and I can live with it or move on, I'm over it! Lol