Let me be clear.
I want to let the great people in the eroids family know how I feel.
1) I have no problem with people buying home brew or making their own home brew. What I have a problem with is some one who home brews gear, and puts labs or pharma in the name of their home brew. When you place labs or pharma on home brew gear it is misleading. It is no better than the tricks used by suppliment companies to trick newbs into buying their garbage.
2) If you had a buddy who brewed some beer in his garage and gave you some. He wouldn't say that the beer came from a brewery. He would just tell you he brewed the beer in his house, and that is cool. It shows he has nothing to hide. Now if he put labels on his beer that said brewery and then sold it online that would be misleading. That would be taking advantage of some one who doesn't know better.
3) The term ugl is used thrown around all the time. Their are probably only 2 real ugl's the rest are all home brew. Their are plenty of src's that don't hide the fact they home brew. They don't put labs or pharma on their labels, and they do just fine. They brew good gear and it sells its self. They don't need to try and trick newbs into thinking they are selling gear made in a lab or is sold in a pharmacy.
Like I said above I have no problem with people making their own or buying home brew.I just don't like when people try to hide the fact their gear is home brewed becouse they are trying to mislead newbs.
If the gear is good. It will sell its self!!
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it WAS MADE IN A LAB! If you make gear in ur bathroom, ur bathroom has become a LAB.
I guess I need to hear what ur definition of LAB...because someone can have a lab in their basement. If they set up an area to make steroids then that area is now a LAB. The issue becomes, what kind of lab do you want to get ur gear from.
Bro, who the hell cares what he calls his company! If ur buying from a ugl and he calls it "blank blank pharma" who are you to say he can't do that? It is not misleading at all, just because its a small operation doesn't mean he can't call it what he wants. Ur being ridiculous. If someone makes a lab in his office with all the proper tools needed to brew steroids then that OFFICE ROOM now has become a LAB. What makes a lab a LAB is what you do in the designated area and whether it has the proper tools. You can have a lab in a warehouse...or an office building...or wherever the fuck you want man...its what you do in the lab that determines the integrity of the lab. Ur issue is just straight up crazy man, just because the lab isn't a huge corporation doesn't mean they can't name their small business whatever they choose. If they make hormone solutions, then they are a lab, plain and simple. Its like saying if I open a business fixing cars and I do it in my own garage and I call it "bobs auto repair shop" and then u start bitching telling me I can't call it a SHOP because its small and not as sophisticated as Monroe Muffler and I'm misleading customers by calling my business a SHOP. If I fix cars at a cheap price and do an awsome job, than wouldn't you rather use my service since ur getting the same thing but instead of having a state of the art shop I work out of my own garage?? Its the same thing man...and big companies can make errors too just like ugls. It comes down to the integrity of the actual person who is making ur juice.
I TRUST THE GEAR HEADS/LABS ON HERE OVER MOST. THESE REVIEW ARE HONEST AND OPEN WITH A TRIED AND TRUE HONEST REP. WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE SUPPLEMENTS CO. THAT SELL BOGUS SUPPLEMENTS AND THE RETAIL STORE THAT GET RICH SELLING SUPPLEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWN NOT TO EVEN CONTAIN ANY OF WHAT THEY ADVERTISE ON THE BOTTLE. FROM SOME PRE WORKOUT DRINKS, TO TEST BOOSTERS, OR EVEN PCT STUFF. SOME NOOB WALKS INTO A NUTRITION WAREHOUSE, GNC, ECT, AND JUST BECAUSE THE GUY BEHIND THE COUNTER LOOKS LIKE HE CAN PRESS 500 LBS THE NOOBS BELIEVES EVERY WORD HE SAYS. OF COURSE HE LEAVE OUT HOW HE REALLY GOT HIS GAINS. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON HERE HAVE NO REASON TO MISLEAD AND IF THEY DO WE ALWAYS HAVE OTHERS WHO KNOW BETTER TO KEEP THE INFORMATION RIGHT. IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN YOUR BODY NOOB OR NO NOOB YOU SHOULD DO YOUR RESEARCH. I EVEN RESEARCH WHAT MY G.P. TELLS ME. HE'S ON ROIDS BUT WON'T ADMIT IT TO ME. OF COURSE HE TESTED ME DURING MY LAST PHYSICAL AND SAID "YOU HAVE ENOUGH FREE TESTOSTERONE IN YOUR BODY TO SUPPLY GOLDS GYM" LOL. IT'S OUR JOB TO EDUCATE EACH OTHER AND THE NOOBS ALSO.
you have a decent point. But even after being on eroids for 8 days now, you didn't need ALL CAPS to make it, bro.
"Nutritional Supplements" they sell legally can be more dangerous than the illegal stuff. They aren't regulated.
didn't mean all caps in a negative way man. was on a small computer ect. i know it's not good to do all caps easier on me sometimes or all lower case. any way are right it sad they can put all that crap in them and no one cares eh
All good & thanks. BTW . . . I agree with ya!
It's sad when you can place more trust in a community of people and UGL who you don't know, but has done the research (some doctors, vets, nutritionists and just some smart people who have done tons of research and have the knowledge) then in your own government body of people. With all the special interest groups they look after to make billions. A friend and I were talking about her aunt that was dyeing of pancreatic cancer and how they have experimental research overseas that the FDA won't allow over here. It's like she is dyeing of cancer whats the worst you can do to her. Like being a morticon if you screw something up whats the worst that will happen..... you get a heart beat.
TRT treatment is not recognized in my state so I have to go two states away to a TRT clinic and trust me the Testosterone, HGH, and Armidex is not cheap lawfully and insurance don't pay jack.
It does come down to trust. And there is only so much you can have in the AAS game. It will not be risk free.
What I will say is I DO count of forum members to help other bros out with more than just GTG, but also if there is a failing (pip, strength, unexpected sides). I see that here more than anywhere else, with less retaliation.
If you write truthfully, I think most people can tell. I didn't say everyone.
I expect my gear to be FIRST AND FOREMOST sterile, 2nd - I received exactly the product I thought I received, 3rd - then I actually care about the relative strength of the compound.
That is the order I care about, in that order, and in no other order.
I DO trust that some UGLs can provide all 3, with NO WIGGLE ROOM on 1 and 2 EVER.
And I'll be honest, I base that trust not off 1 review, but myriads of reviews from eroids members.
That's my measuring stick, and I'm sticking to it regardless of PR, trolling, crusading, or a mix of them all.
Bro, why don't you get together with theonslaught and the two of you can crusade together
The only way you will without a doubt get real 100% pharma grade(no doubts) is to get on Trt and get you some of this.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/watson-testosterone-cypionate
Let me take one out of your own book........You Fail!!!!!!!!!!! You have bashed every lab on here and now you are backing off your statements.
What do you gain from this?
Whether he misspoke or changed his position he has the class and grace to make it right. You should recognize that and act accordingly.
Thanks for knocking me a point there Greg. Likewise..Only difference is I gave you a point ...Theres a little history there with this guy and myself.He has been pretty freaking rude.And quite the know nothing know it all. Your only seeing half the story..
Since "underground" refers to any secret operation, then any size lab whether it be a kitchen, bathtub or a big commercial concern could be considered underground as long as business is carried out in secret.
When I think UGL I always consider the fact of it being home brew, what is your definition of UGL? If you think there is a professional factory with a sterile assembly line type production I'm sorry to tell you but thats just not the case, Omega, Lixus, Veyron, Sciroxx I don't care where its made, how its made or who made it, as long as its properly sterilized and works thats all that should matter. Also what makes you think Sciroxx is not homebrew? Because they can push out more product? Because they are a big name thats been around? Sciroxx has labs all over the place that I can't openly disclose but they have to be homebrew, it would draw to much attention if they were not small.
NastyNateWhat's it matter if it says "labs" or "pharma" or "iron man's piss" on the side of the bottle?!?
If a noob is being misled by whats on the side of the bottle due to a lack of research before buying, much less pinning it...than that's his own fucking fault. It ain't nobody's job to hold anyone's hand in this game, its all our responsibility to make the safe decisions when playing this game we call AAS....and if a dumbass noob isn't intellectually capable enough to do that, then oh well...hope he learn's from his mistakes.
Every transaction and actual usage of AAS is a risk, it's each individuals responsibilty to minimize those risks for themselves.
DOUBLE G 67ONE LAST TIME...MY LABS ARE NOT,I REPEAT NOT MADE BY ME...THEY ARE MADE IN CONDITIONS TWICE AS STERILE AS 90% OF YOUR PHARMA GEAR..IM A GEARHEAD,NOT A FUCKING CHEMIST...I ALSO DONT NAME MY SUPPLIERS GEAR...I CARRY THE BEST GEAR ANYWHERE..PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS...I WILL PERSONALLY GIVE YOU A 10 WEEK CYCLE OF ANY OF MY LABS(THEY ARE LABS I.M.O. BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE MADE IN CLEAN ROOMS,WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT)IF AFTER 10 WEEKS YOU DONT LIKE MY GEAR FOR ANY REASON I WILL BUY YOU A 10 WEEK CYCLE,ANY SIZE CYCLE YOU WANT,OF YOUR PRECIOUS EUROPEAN PISS MADE IN DARK CELLARS WITH NO REGULATIONS WHATSOEVER..CENSORED
DAMN G, YOU THE MAN!!! LOVE IT!! WAY TO STANDUP FOR OUR SHIT
AMEN BROTHER! TELL HIM HOW IT IS!
Go hit the gym an kool off lol. I will be pinning your your gear come monday and keep the community updated with my results. I have FULL faith in what you sent me!
sgtstedankoRelax, good product sells itself. If I start to shit talk your gear, will you give me a 12 week cycle of your arl cyp/prop, w/the last 8weeks of anavar! I think more peeps will listen to me? I'm having trouble getting service from dude now that some big time new gorilla in the block seems to be taking up all the ruskies time : (
AnonHi DG..I don't have a problem with you defending yourself, in fact, I am glad that you have done so.. However, Your last sentence which I have taken the liberty of editing is not appropriate, allowed, or tolerated. Please, try to remember this for the future. Thanks ;-)
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkWow someone forgot to take there AI today. But seriously I would gladly take you up on this offer
DOUBLE G 67THAT IS UP TO ..IF HE WANTS SOMEONE IMPARRTIAL TO DO IT IM COOL..HE DOESNT KNOW WHO I WAS BEFORE I OPENED THE STORE,,THIS IS WHY WE ARE FRONT PAGE IN 2 WEEKS AND WE BROKE THE HEAT FACTOR ALLTIME RECORD..I DONT TRICK ANYONE INTO ANYTHING ..YOU FUCK WITH MY BIZ I FUCK WITH YOU..TAKE THE CHALLENGE OR SHUT YOUR MOUTH
This bickering has been going back and forth with GG and raider for about a week, with me inbetween them...no hommo Thats why he GG made the offer to raider. Bodybulder, Im shure you will take GG up on that offer..lol I dought you need it though..lol From what I here, your the man.
Your gear will speak for itself bro.
Anon(thank you dg)
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYa bro selling this shit takes skill and you have to know what your doing. Im leaving that to the pros, plus I don't think I could deal with these noob emails all day. Friend request sent
I see what you are saying however, just because it says labs or pharma in the label never fooled me one bit. Honestly if any of you out there that read this and were fooled.....your an idiot. I bet you think wrestling is real.
WRESTLING IS REAL BRO! ABOUT AS REAL AS YOUR BITCH TITS! HAHA JK DOUBLE G BUGGED OUT SO I WANTED TOO....BUT IT IS REAL!
I understand bro. I think that applies to alpha pharma cuz they def aren't prescribed to ppl by real doctors lol. But I think that superman labs and usp pharma didn't name themselves that to TRY to get noobs to think they are a pharmaceutical lab, like I said its just a gimmick. But those homebrea I named are good I used the usp prop and it is so good and he uses cottonseed oil so its white-clear u can see any specks and there are none. USP even said he uses a .22 micro filter instead of a .45 like most ugls use which he said the .22 takes longer to filter but it is even more pure or filtered. But hey do you mind sharing which HG src your cuz got their gear tested from? Like I said im trying to find legit HG. Thx
Ya but in your source reviews Ive seen a couple sites you've ordered amps from so if u got all your shit from pharmacy then why not just stick to that? Edrugdelivery was one in particular I saw u purchase from and they are know as a hit or miss. But its cool bro I love HG also but its hard to find good amps ...I have been burned a couple times as far as amps go and im sure a lot of ppl can say the same. There is only one supplier I trust to have real amps im sure there is more I just have ti find them im actually in the process of finding true HG right now. I would love nothing more than to have legit sustanon or aburaihan. But my chances of having a great cycle are just a bit better if I buy domestic from AB (which im using now) or another good homebrew. I also really want to try sarcoplex because ppl are saying they are as close to a lab or human grade that a UGL will get but for all I know its a gimmick.
Labs is just a term bro. Like its the 'norm' nowadays to name your homebrew 'something labs' or 'something pharma' u really think everyone thinks this shit with the hulk on the side of it is coming from a doctor? Lol if ppl think that they need to drop AAS altogether. And btw, those amps that everyone calls HG gear is really contaminated shit 60% of the time. So thinking your safe going that route is not really safe. Its all a gamble bro. If u find a good source that their gear makes u grow and not get an abscess your gtg.
Ur right Mac. Ur 100% right... Its just a term, nobody is so stupid where they are like "oh this source is called EXTREME LABS so it must be human grade pharmacuetical grade because its made in a lab...and that's where human grade is made in a LAB" COME ON BRO!! That's ridiculous....people kno that there is different quality of labs....that's the issue....people can get gear from a shitty lab in someones basement (still a LAB) or they can get it from a high quality lab from a reputable pharmacuetical company....ur like making a big deal out of something that isn't even an issue bro.
I agree. I told raider that back in the 90's all I used to get were nile sustanon and jelfa omnedrens. All were gtg. Just as good as watson or steris. Now adays they fake those cute little amps all the time because people assume them to be gtg. So they get charged double for fake gear. Its all a gamble.
I actually believe that 60% to be much higher. Now days it's a joke to try and get real hg over the net. There are so many counterfeits out there, some even being near prefect replicas. Not saying these counterfits are all junk, some do contain hormones usually it's a cheaper steroid, a more common one is test instead of deca. I been doing this for some time now and I've seen my share of fakes, needless to say I have given up on finding real hg over the net. I would much rather trust a well known ugl over some counterfit hg, at least the ugl has a reputation to obtain.
I agree with you i dont care if he guy calls his gear moose piss pharma labs and its good quality i could care less
Ya for real, I mean loom at optimal labs....little shitty paper labels with simple font and grey flip tops and im growing like a freak on top of that all my vials are clear as day and clean, minimal pip. Im satisfied and im glad I can finally say that. Can't wait till veyron gets here too should be any day I ordered from Pmart, I seen your veyron stash ....god dam lol.
amen to that bro. optimal "labs" had me fucking like a porn star lol. but i'm curious, if a guy cooking meth out of his house gets busted, why does he gets charge for running a meth "lab"?
Show us what you consider a real UGL please.
I agree with bodybuilder on this one, if it's not made using a dedicated lab it's UGL.
Do people really believe that the homebrews with "labs" in the name really are from a pharmaceutical company?
It is not like the FDA is regulating them. But it is a good point. Sort of like used car salemen selling gear.
ETA: Some of the bullshit I see sources trying to sell as the truth are enough to make me fall on the floor laughing so hard I pass out from lack of oxygen.
lol same her bro, we think the same.
IMO homebrew and ugl are one in the same. Neither of them have any guidelines or anybody making sure they follow any rules and regulations. Its all about trusting your src.