I'm ashamed of my great country... Bankruptcy 1
For those of you who can read...
Bankruptcy 1
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$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal immigrants each year by state governments.
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at: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecente...
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$22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal immigrants .
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at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML
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$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal immigrants .
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$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
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at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt....0.HTML
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$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal immigrants, known as anchor babies.
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$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal immigrants .
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30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal immigrants .
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$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal immigrants for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
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$200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal immigrants.
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In 2006, illegal immigrants sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.
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The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME, HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $ 338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS ENTIRE GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS!
You still think the war in Iraq was/is costing us too much!? Wake up!
ARE WE THAT FUCKING STUPID!? Really!!! YES, FOR LETTING THOSE DICKHEADS IN THE U.S. CONGRESS GET AWAY WITH LETTING THIS HAPPEN, ALL WHILE FILLING THEIR GREEDY POCKETS WITH OUR $, YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!
Open up your fucking eyes people. Fuck being {PC}, Fuck the world; Worry about "WE The People"! Coming up, let's get something done here... & If this doesn't bother you. Please put a bullet in you worthless dome ASAP! I'll supply the ammo...
Kind Regards - Sarge
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AnonMan, I will be honest... there are some things that are so complex and this topic is one of them. While I am discouraged with our elected officials I cant say anything about the motherland. Just about every cemetery I have been to has a dead soldier that died in some war at an early age. Then you have Arlington national cemetery that's full of soldiers. I cant say I'm ashamed of this country without kicking dirt in the face of the men and women who gave all.
Pank, I'm prior military also.
AnonPank you are dead right, I will say scary how right you are.
Frustrated, yes I have never liked the big mouth type, they rub me the wrong way. It would however be a leap in personal growth if I took your advice though and "win by not playing"
So here is my last move .
1st of all Sarge is just regurgitating a chain email he got, this is nothing he researched or wrote as an original piece. I have zero respect for people that are foolish enough to forward and spread junk emails without verifying them.
2nd There is no good reason to bump this kind of thread or to have written it in the first place, it serves no purpose other than to aggitate. I noticed yesterday when this thread popped up how old it was, and thought how childish to go bumping ones own old tired threads. It seems like a pathetic attempt to say "look at me "
3rd The problem is sticking to the facts would have prevented this thread from ever being created, because its just false, plain and simple.
Here is just one source to verify my slant on things, and quite frankly anyone who does just a little bit of digging would see the BS of the OP
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/
I don't know if anyone here ever saw that movie "War Games" not the remake the first one. Anyways there is a scene in it where the super computer that launches ICBM plays tic tac toe with itself. To try to find a strategy to win. In the end in kept going back and forth with no winner. Finally in a dramatic pause the computer states, "The Only Way To Win Is Not To Play"! That is my take personally on political debates.
But since I am a realist maybe there can be some civility during them. I don't know Sgt real well but he is a military man like myself so therefore a brother and I have nothing against him at all.
I have come to know Nov pretty good. He is a good man, for whatever reason him and I have so many things on the opposite side of the spectrum yet, we get along more than really well. I will say that when it comes to researching and studying political facts on previous threads that I have seen from him, he doesn't get refuted that I can remember.
What I am trying to say as I am sure I am watching this shit storm stir and I happen to like all the players for different reasons, maybe we can stay to the facts without getting personal. Once you go personal with insults you are clearly saying that you are frustrated and no longer can prove your point by the factual truth. This is just my .02. So gentlemen and ladies fight hard and fight clean, win by forcing your opponent to run out of facts and show each other respect while you attack the argument.:)
Wow!!! JFC!!! I live in a county where they get all the fucking money!!!!!! I have never and would never take any fucking thing for free!!! That's why I want to live in northern Idaho!!!!!
AnonYeah except for the fact that that is complete bullshit. This is nothing more than moronic (I say moronic to be kind ) propaganda designed to insight people. Just look at the asshole who bumped this old thread, oh no its not you, its not the latest reply, its the OP bumping his own old tired shit to kick up a fuss and hear his fucking wind bag mouth blow hot air. He always bumps old threads. He says "oh Ive been gone for a while " .
Yeah well time to invest in some new horseshit sarge !
look at the refferences.
Quite frankly if anything makes me ashamed of my country it is the pure stupidity, ignorance and just outright dishonest way of thinking represented right here.
RustyhookerKnowledge bumps. Reading the truth sure hurts. Sarge posted reality
RustyhookerI'll vote for ya!
sgtstedankoI've been gone for a little while. Checked in on this. I'll let it die after my last little rant here. Thanks for your opinions before... The problem is. We've forgotten what made us truly great. Imo, what made this country, was LEGAL; LEGAL IMMIGRATION! To start. The biggest economic boom in our history was all because of the (can do, no matter what, never give up military mindset; that servicemen came back from Europe & Asia with. They left little boys, with a little boy mentality (gimme, gimme, gimme) I Deserve everything; & then after, came back men {I'll work hard for what I get, my shit might not be the nicest, but it's all mine, I fucking earned it, & I ain't dead yet mother fuckers. Yippee}. They came back w/discipline, pride in themselves & especially this great country. Along with the hard work ethic instilled in them. The willingness of self sacrifice & obedience probably didn't hurt too much either. The way I look at it is this. I've got the nicest house on the block. I worked hard to keep it up for a long time. Word got out of my nice house, and all my toys. My neighbors one day decide that they deserve a house, and stuff, just like mine; but sadly Most don't want to work for it; and have learned how to cheat the system {that has bankrupted us. U.S. It's not like we are a endless fucking money tree. Cash is all gone!} Anyway, as it turns out. I come home one day from putting in an 18 hour day to all my neighbors saying "your out of beer, funyuns, and we just rented a movie off cable, & pinned those rainy day vials you were saving" : ( Since you make more money than us, it makes sense if you go out and buy more... I'll end this rant. Sorry for offending anybody. I have absolutely nothing against any nationality, (even the pussy, fucked in the head crazy religious ones that blow themselves up, use kids as human shields, etc. You douchebags know who you are:( Again, I have nothing against immigration. DONE LEGALY. If you want American $ get a job, become a U.S. citizen, etc, etc, etc. Just like the immigrants before. Oh, & who did the jobs before? Thank you gentlemen ~~~
Sarge ur beating a dead horse. I grew up with a handful of service men and know many many more. All enlisted after 9/11. Believe me I have seen a couple come home due to wounds from combat. I respect all that they did for what they believed in. But what is wrong with this country is many men and women refuse to look in the mirror and ask what have I done to make this country better. All they do is look around and point fingers instead of actually making a living doing something that boosts this economy. 5 of my childhood friends went to iraq. All five are now either working as cops or as a security guard somewhere. I run security for hospitals and work with many vets. I assume u used ur combat experience and knowledge of firearms to get a job as either a cop or homeland security. You would be stupid not to use ur training to get a job It's good pay and it's a job. Period. But answer me what skills do our men and woman that are ground and pound have that will land them a job that will actually boost the economy. This is what my friends have done. They arrest good hardworking folks who made mistakes and fine them and incarcerate them which is another strain on my tax dollars bud. Yes cops put bad people behind bars which i now have to pay to keep them locked up. I'd rather see our military train our soldiers jobs that will boost our economy once they have finished their service. All I am saying is if u want the country to get better grow some food or invent something that us Americans can build here. U do realize pretty soon America will not be able to feed ourselves. I assume u are familiar with our founding fathers. All were farmers!! every one of them. Now our country is changing the very seeds we use to grow our food. These seeds turn into fruit that produce zero seeds. Look it up. This isn't sustainable agriculture. We waste 50% of our crops because we are a disgustingly wasteful people. Our country doesn't even promote bio-dynamic farming. Wtf. Every farm should be bio-dynamic. It is self sustainable and can run as such for eternity. Plain idiocy Sargent. We are a path of self destruction not because of illegals but because we soon will outsource our souls. I honestly think outsourcing to another country should be punishable by death. Yet every major company in America does this. Y are they not tried as traitors and hung. Why are we as a nation letting china make everything for us. They own everything in this country. China is our problem not a border brother who works for 40 buks a day doing landscaping. Who wants to mow lawns? Y don't unemployed Americans go hang out at home depot and hustle like day workers. Nobody is stopping them. But no Americans want insurance and 401k to do lame ass jobs. I don't know about u but I don't want to mow lawns for a living. Or work at a fast food joint. All u see at mcds and cj's is teenagers and border brothers. Who wants to do that. I don't. As far as I'm concerned they can have those jobs cuz most Americans like me don't want them. Ramble officially over. Peace I'm out
dansta123us aussie try to send as much money as possible to your sources and they reject us.lol
like majik said, everyone in this country is an immigrant. there are some benefits from illegals. Think about all those ppl who pick our crops. do u really wanna pay 8bucks for a stalk of celery. not to mention the pool of cheap labor that keeps business costs low. its not a coincidence the states that grew the most in terms of jobs and gdp were all located in the south and near the border. the jobs immigrants take are the ones ppl with degrees and high school diplomas dont want anyways. there are way bigger problems to our economy than illegal immigration. and as much as its a frustration now. trust me, it'll fix itself. dont pay too much attention to the media. its an election yr anyways. as much as i dont like obama, seems like he's gonna win regardless
All peanuts compared to the retirement packages we give unionized public workers, Overly extended unemployment benefits, welfare to legal citizens, bank and business bailouts, a WWII and cold war military posture, foreign aid to countries that hate us, etc., etc...
Not to mention that our annual interest on that debit is $451 BILLION and that's at a historically low interest rate. It'll be more as interest rates rise.
The interest on our debit is MORE than all of the bullet points you mention above combined!
Vote Libertarian. Vote Ron Paul
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Yeah boy! Im changing my party just to vote for him. I fucked up and voted for o'brother last election. All I got was a black George bush. He didn't change shit. I won't vote for anyone who believes in anyone named smith or young. And santorum couldn't even win re-election to senate. I want a new direction. Bring our boys home we are Gunna need them when china invades brother. If china and Russia ever hook up. We are in trouble.
This country blows dick anyways.
That works out to right around $1,000 for every man, woman, lesbian, butt fucker and child /year in this country.
tread-mWere the butt fuckers not already counted once in one of the other catagories? If so then the actual number is about $1275.00...
Anyone notice the "Homeland Cyber Security Degrees" ad above?
Homeland security is another government agency that will be used to clamp down on your freedom as we continue to melt down.
I am now hearing rumblings that they are going to try to keep more money in the country by abolishing wire transfers....That would mean no more Western Union. At the very least, they are going to put more restrictions on it.
Go to the bank in any large city and ask to withdraw $5000 of YOUR money and see what happens---they are now requiring banks to ask you what you want the money for....YOUR FUCKING MONEY!
OPEN YOU FUCKING EYES!!!!
But first, open your ears and watch this on You Tube. It will show you exactly what is about to happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb1n1X0Oqdw
sgtstedankoI'd like to try this. Can I borrow $2400, bro :/
Do I get shares of kodiak? I did give you the idea...
BULLSHIT!!!! I doubt anyone at homeland security has a degree. Unless they started giving degrees in Jack Bootery.
Don't get me started with this jacked up bull shit we call the US economy. Only thing that keeps me sane is watching guys like this complain...brings my faith back to society.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRmZ9zH-mYM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
beavisThat was pretty good. he was right on.
LOLOL...Grrrrl and I loved that vid!
Ehh, not as bad as being American born,knowing english,and still requiring government assistance- at least most illegals work hard to improve. Plus come on,who wants to live in Mexico?
Eric090585Yep...! agreed
Religion and politics 2 things I always keep out of the locker room. We love you Sarge NO HOMO!
I migrated to the the US on Nov. 11th 1951. My grandparents, my parents, my sister and I all came over on the same plane from Caracas, Venezuela. We rented, we worked, we all went to school to learn to speak english. I became a citizen, served my country, fought in a war, paid my taxes, got a job . The work I did, I built America from the ground up. Never been on food stamps or welfare. I bow my head to no man.
sgtstedankoNICE! That's what I'm fucking talking about, right there! Thanks brother...
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fuck me,the sarge just threw a fucking grenade in here,i thought i had logged into eroids wtf........................
damn, and I thought I wrote alot lol
This seems to be getting a little personal.
I'm out.
Have a good night guys
Ur right:( I'm losing my mind here. If I offended u I apologize. My anger was not meant to be directed at u.
This is a very controversial subject. Yes, this country wouldnt be shit without immigration, but most of the immigrants nowadays are not what they were 100-200 yrs ago. I agree that we need to keep cartels and ms-13 gangs out, but shit they all find a way in anyways, thats why I own guns
and money? Pshh! Fuck money its worthless but we still all gotta get it, just the other day I gave this little chico that works for me a ride home, and ya he is illegal and I hired him. Why? Because hes 17 and has a wife and kid and paid his life savings to someone that got him across the border from guatemala and his family needa to eat too. I think that your post is a little bit too redneck ..
I commend u for being honest mac. Serious talk tho cartels only exist becuz the CIA is the cartel. They are the largest supplier of dope in the history of mankind. They're using the cover the cartels give them to make tons of cash. My best friend is a tea party guy and his family has some freedom fighter ties. But I love him like a brother and he would cut his arm off for me. Y, becuz we don't talk politics. We just accept we have extremely different views and choose to be best of friends. Crazy thing is I'm coming off like I'm illegal but my family has been in Americas since before the pilgrims bro. I just think talk like this is a waste of our time. It doesnt benifit a single aspect of Eroids. Does nothing to improve our knowledge. All it does is start dividing what was supposed to be a brotherhood of gearheads.
Thx brother, and ya exactly this is the one place we can all come to unwind and not worry about politics and what not, even tho I already started rantin on lol, but ya I know what u mean its funny cuz I got a co worker who is tea party and im one of those to just nod and listen to what he says wen he gets on a rant even tho my views arent that extreme. Im a pretty chill guy, and I just love eroids and AAS ill leave it at that lol
This country wouldn't be shit without immigration. Diversity is what makes this country so great. The only person that needs to wake up is you, what is this the 60's. Stop blaming all your problems in your worthless life on Immigration. Whats next segregation? Why in the he'll would you even bring this bull shit to an AAS site? Bring it up in your next KKK meet. You have just shown you true colors as an ignorant racist.
sgtstedankoThis country wouldn't be shit w/out LEGAL IMMIGRATION! Lol! Worthless life. I've ddone more, & will continue doing more for this great country (that I bleed for), than most could ever dream of. In fact I'm about to once again, put on my fucking cape for this country! Very, very soon... My life is actually pretty good. I brought it here, because I found it interesting. I was bored. Thought someone else might as well. & maybe somebody will learn something, if they take the time to read; before flying off the handle... Honestly brother, some of the men I trust most in "worthless life" are of all colors, by the way. & It doesn't bother me at all. I'm an ignorant racist, because I'm against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!? that's just retarded dude. (Retarded by lack of breadth of vision, not birth)
JESUS SAVES;)
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I wonder if they would like to sing "I FEEL PRETTY" with me?
Omg I almost spit out my coffee:)!!!!!!
Beautiful Señor Pope, can u see Sarge with FES from 70's show holding hands and singing that shit.
Bro you say your agains immigration and that some of the men you trust the most are of all colors. This does not make any sense to me, how do you think those men got her. Obviously there parents were at one point immigrants hence my statement " this country wouldn't be shit without". Maybe it's the Tren but you really hit a nerve with this one. If I offended you then I am truly sorry but, if you ever see me and call me a wet back or a bean'er then Fuck you.
See thats what I meant in my response, I dont really AGREE with illegal immigration but its kind of like splitting hairs, like I said I hired an illegal cuz he is truly a great kid, extremely hard worker, and I do pay him what I would normally pay anyone else. I just dont see this economy or all those billions really directly affecting me, when times get rough im gonna fucking hustle till I get paid , illegal or not. We all do illegal things so whose to say those ppl crossing the border are so wrong? Thats where its like splittin hairs becuz most of em are just normal ppl tryna come here and raise families in peace and get away frm their shitty countries (like our forefathers) and some of em are cartel shitheads bringing kilos and gangs over. What is our great countey to do? We cant totally fuck all them over once they are here or we are no better than their countries...its a catch .22
Lol its all good brother im sure everyone understands, see here at eroids I think everyone gets to pull the tren card every now and then ,it happens to the best of us
Could not have said it any better myself, thanks bro. This is exactly the point i was trying to get across stupid tren rage aint letting me think straight.
Our taxes pay for immigrants to have sea sections.... Sweet huh
Aaaaaaaaaagggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm losing my mind! I quit this thread!
Well damn... Kind of hard to argue with that.
Illegal is illegal.
I had a girl friend from Nicaragua (she was legal)who thought it was fucked up that her family couldn't come here as easily as she did. Then I asked if people from costs rica, which borders Nicaragua are allowed to enter Nicaragua as they please without documentation ? She said no of course not! My response "Then why the fuck should we allow it?!?!?"...
Why are we supposed to be so open to people coming here illegally but it's totally normal for other country to restrict access?
Fucked up.
Cheap migrant labour has been a fixture in your country's economic production for a very, very long time. If you woke up tomorrow and all of the Mexicans were back in Mexico, your country would implode.
That's a problem that goes back a hundred years. It should have been handled long before it was ever an issue.
But also... If the Mexican labor force disappeared you know what would happen? All of the out of work American or legal immigrants would get higher paying jobs again. It would take the money away from the companies that safe money on hiring illegals and force them to hire legal laborers. I'm a union member and there are hundreds of out of work men in my union and a lot of those men were replaced by illegal workers.
I've lived all over south and central american and I always had proper documentation. Argentina for a few years was more complicated than you'd think.