posted Mon, 12/05/2011 - 03:11
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Cycle decided!! last minute opinions before start tomorrow
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After much research and opinions through other forum post this my finished cycle
Stats
age -24
weight - 215
Bf -12%
aim - >10%
8 week cycle -
Test prop - 100 mg EOD wk 1-8
Anavar - 50 - 75mg ED wk 1-8
Clen 2 wk on/off 40ug tabs will vary dosage depending how body reacts
Nolva - wk 8-10
along with a perfect diet and hard training want to be shredded to the bone at 215
sound good??
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Looks good I'd get some adex and drop the clen (just my preference) and run the nolva for a month not 2 weeks. I get my serms and ai's from extremepeptide
Well bro if there was a flame button the fellas would probably burn me up but here goes. I didnt read everything just skimmed through it and well personally I dont think theres much wrong with this cycle with the lack of experience you have...
Agreed it is always best to run test by itself the very first time, BUT the truth is there is a very large population of steroid users that say it is fine to run an oral with it, almost always the recommendation is a stronger one than anavar...
As far as pinning goes, you say you have done EOD before so you know what your getting into, depending upon the lab and your body the PIP could be more than you are used to...
Test-p, ill put it to you like this, if you can handle tren should be no reason why you cant handle test sides, the dose you are running is not very high and sides should be minimal to none, but you do need to take an AI...
In retrospect to some of the other posts below, yes test-e is always the first recommendation for a first time steroid user simply because of the pinning regime, the fact that you have experience doing this in my eyes changes the general rule if you so choose...
Your previous cycles sucked, lacked research, and surely did not live up to their potential, use the site to learn how to run gear the proper way.
FLAMED MUTHAFUCKAH! J/K! (LOL)
I agree that he really shouldn't have much of an issue, he doesn't have a monster stack going or any heavy duty compounds (he did that already!) but at the same time don't want to give the impression that every knucklehead with lack of knowledge shoild get "a pass" just becuase he fucked up early in their cycle history.
my .02
Brutha, this is one of my FAVORITE cycles (although im a prop ED guy), but I have to agree with the guys that you have obviously lacked the proper research in your cycle history or gained the proper experience to be running short ester cycles... Hope you at least did a little research on site rotation cuz ED/EOD pinning does take a certain amount knowledge, experience and discipline
my .02
Is this your first cycle?
2 other proper cycles -
1st - Stanazol with clen for 8 weeks worked real good ended up gaining a couple of kgs though
2nd tren with anavar also worked good - weight stayed around the same
Am not looking for any weight gains so will have a high cardio output during the cycle as well
Nasty81NateSo this is your first time with test? What's the most frequently you pinned on the other cycle; ED, EOD, E3D, etc...?
EOD with stan , never used test before
Frankieshows your lack of reserch
winstrol need to be taken every day due to its short half life ,eod will lead to a dip in bloods and you missing a day with no active winstrol compond in your system .
as for your above proposed cycles of tren/var ect ,were the hell is the test?
sorry but its bad advise imo
Nasty81NateIt's all about the TEST TEST TEST. It' should be in any and every cycle. I didn't even comment on the tren, don't have the time or energy to explain what's wrong with that cycle.
Nasty81NateThen you need to run a proper test cycle bro. Get some test E, run it a 500mg a week for 12 weeks, frontload the cycle with prop, 100mg EOD for 2 weeks, you could run the Var at the end if your dead set on running it, but I'd say just drop it, at the most run Clen two weeks near the end of the cycle. Run standard PCT two weeks after your last shot of E. you seem to think the compounds are gonna get you to ur goals, when in reality you can get there off a Test E cycle with a diet dialed in and proper training techniques.
i see.. well ill start the test prop tomorrow and might try get hold of some test e if you think thats the way to go, why do you think dropping the Anavar is the thing to do?
Yup test is like the foundation of a house you don't start building without it
Nasty81NateI just don't think you need it at this point, focus on making the test get you to where you want to be. This is essentially your first RIGHT cycle you'll have ever done. No offense, but those two first cycles were ridiculous. Your trying to do much, and you were doing it the wrong way. If u do run the var, run it the last 6 weeks at 75mg a day.
ok so test prop first 2 weeks then test e next 10 weeks? and only run var from weeks 6-12 , clen in weeks 10-12, and pct nolva wks 12 -14? any way of shortening the cycle with the same benefits?
Nasty81NatePin the test e twice a week the first two weeks also. The E takes a couple weeks to set in, that's why you front load the prop with the E. Don't start anything til you get everything you need, the Test E, some armidex for side effects, and some clomid for post cycle. So here's the grocery list: 1 x 10ml Test Prop 100, 3 x 10ml Test E 250' Armidex, and Clomid. Get all those in your hands, and your good to go. Don't be in such a rush to do things wrong, get it right and you'll be pleasantly surprised with the outcome.
do u no any suppliers on here that have Armidex? is it going to matter if i use nolvadex instead of clomid as i already have some or do you recommend clomid? thx for the help by the way
Nasty81NateNolvadex will be fine, run it 4 weeks at 40/40/20/20. Go to ar-r and get their liquidex, it's works great for me.
Nasty81NateCycle history?