posted Mon, 12/05/2011 - 01:20
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Hey, i recently got a liver test and my results came back higher then what they should and now im starting to feel pains in my liver, went to see the doc he reckons steroids are not a big factor is mainly alcohol intake.. ive never had problems before and just started a new cycle a couple of weeks beforehand, is there any tablets or anything you can take for your liver do take the pressure of it - any recommendations??
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OE2000I think this site ships internationally.... http://www.vitacost.com/Liver-Health
I think Liv52 and some form of cycle support maybe what you are after.
Liv52 seems pretty popular do you no any supplie on here that has it as i live in Australia is harder to find reliable sources..
Liv52 seems pretty popular do you no any supplie on here that has it as i live in Australia is harder to find reliable sources..
Check out SAMe."The supplement is sold as a prescription drug for liver disease in most of Europe, but due to a lack of research is not widely accepted in the U.S."I found this quote online.
SAMe? im in Australia so would go through a supplier on here if possible..
I found this website in your neck of the woods.http://www.pretoriusvitamins.com.au/vitamin.asp?productID=10
Cheers for the link
I'm not sure.It's sold as a supplement in the U.S.I have bought mine at www.lef.org.I don't use any AAS at the moment,but I am looking into hrt and this site has been great.I took SAMe to help my liver when I drank.
OE2000I use a combination of milk thistle, alpha lipoic acid, and NAC.... also squeeze the juice of 1 lemon in water everyday. And most important, cut out the drinking man, using orals together with booze is stressing the hell outta your liver.
Where is the best place to find these products you named? am in Austrslia so was going to go with supplier on here if products cannot be gotten over counter
AnonEither stop drinking or stop using AAS. Did your doctor ask you what compounds you are using? I'll agree booze is worse then a "medical" dose of steroids. If you are running 300mgs of test once a week sure the steroids are the lesser of two evils. Combine the juice and the alcohol and get 10 fold the risk.
Knowing how important the liver is to this whole sport(juice or no juice)I personally never was much of a drinker and at 48 and years of cycles my liver is pristine, so your doctor may be correct the booze is worse but never deny the fact your liver is EVERYTHING in your health.
I have taken Liv52 on a empty stomach everyday for almost 8 years before I eat breakfast and another Milk Thistle tab with dinner. IDK is it helps but I wouldn't risk learning the hard.
The liver is the only organ to regenerate itself, so stop drinking NOW and end your cycle and let your liver rest man.
the doctors i see are not really clued on about compounds of steroids well from when i mentioned it just sorted talked about it in passing not going into detail.. if i just totally cut out the drinking - was on test prop eod 300mg/wk and 50mg var ed do you think my liver will be able to recover or do you think this would still stress it out alot.. where can i buy these liver products as i have never used before? are they over the counter in chemists? or do i have to go through a supplier on here? any help would be good thanks..
AnonThat is what I consider a very low dose of Test and the Var: although orals are HARD on your liver Var is the least harsh I know of. I am no doctor but the facts indicate the alcohol is the Big trouble for you. You may to sensitive and have a lower resistance to the booze and your liver recovers slowly. Throw even a mild cycle on and you have problems. Another turn around is the steroids are for some reason harder on you or they are "dirty" or contain too much solvent and co-solvents. IDC what anyone says EO is just hard on everything but sure is pretty and oil goes through a 27ga really....big f-ing deal it is killing you!
So back on your #1 RIGHT NOW: STOP DRINKING. Just stop! Go to AA, promise your kids and your dog and grab your balls and just stop for 1 month. If you can do a month you can do life without it.
A #2 would be don't take orals anymore. I stopped orals due to my age, not worth the damage and YES they raise your liver enzymes(even Var).
3 but right up with 1&2 is research the supplements and drugs some other guys are posting but taking drug and thinking you can drink again???? I am one of those people that can't be single, I'll screw everything and end up with my tires slashed, bitches fighting on my lawn and eventually an STD. I got a steady GF and it's hard but what I have to do for my own good. Simple yes, easy NO!
You can't play with this one Bro. But most likely you are going to beat it and learn a lesson and have great info for others Bro's.
I will try my best, i do live a hard fast paced lifestyle but will def slow it down a bit now, am just living and learning along the way.. cheers for the advice
Silymarin is the best option, I use it when i finish a cycle. During the cycle I usually take Liv52 but i think that Silymarin will be a better option in your case.
can u buy that over the counter at chemist or?