posted Sat, 11/12/2011 - 00:32
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Test and Tren help!!
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Hey,
I've done a few cycles in my time but im more after hust a little bit of education here.. I no there are a number of different types of Test and Tren, if anyone out could give me a brief description of how each type works as in terms of - weight gain, no gain just helping with cutting etc..
Im after creating a new cycle for myself where i gain no or minimal weight im currently 86kg and about 14% bf but want to get under 10% after this cycle, i have been recommended to Test prop and Anavar any other thoughts?
Any hely would be appreciated
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Well if you have ran some cycles in the past you should have a general understanding of those compounds and how they worked for you, so my first question would be what compounds have you used?
tread-mTry to include your age in all posts requiring self belp as opposed to general questions. Having said that you have multiple cycles and I'm on board with rods here at the bottom. I would run prop at at least 150mg eod which is more closely related to a very low end 300mg of long ester and run anavar at 40mg daily all on a 10 or 12 week cycle and bump the var to 80mg split in the final 4 weeks. If you are dialed in on diet for goal you will have great success here. Diet not only determines the outcome but the degree of outcome based on the degree of commiment to the specific diet you are on....and more importantly, were you using the right diet for goal. I have seen nutritionists who were so set in their mind they new proper diets that they were actually using the wrong diet for goal. A "proper diet is for the general population and a proper diet for goal is often specific to you and those wanting to achieve the same goal. Diet is the whole thing, beginning to end and compounds will not take care of your goals without giving them the necessary foods to achieve that goal. Its like having a bomb but no delivery mechanism to get it to where it needs to he making how powerful it is irrelevent. Diet to goal brother and this works. You asked how the specific test products work...propiianate test is very fast acting. In other wods when you get to week four and are still waiting on a long ester test to kick, prop would have been rockin good for 3 of those weeks had you went with it instead. As well, in my opinion it is much more like the bodies own mechanism and the body responds to it better. While the dose of 150 eod might seem high for a cut to someone who does not undrstand it. It is atually very low. You dont count all the mg's taken in a week because for all intents and purposes each shot is dead in 48 hrs, fully gone in 72. The best method of determining how much you are using when compared to long ester is to add the total mg's used in 2 days and that is he total you would compare to a weeks use with a long ester. Some will add 3 days use and while that is fine it is not accurate IMO. The prop is gone in 3 days entirely so why add the 3rd day? It is a better compound IMO for your goal, and many goals, because it clears the body so fast. Much easier to manipulate stability if used properly. It could easlily be increased to 100mg's or even 150 mg's in the final 4 weeks of this cycle and in fact that is exactly where I would go with it. The anavar will be ramped up in full force helping you desired goal and help keep any real bulk off at those levels and the additional prop will help the overall goal tremendously. Keep adex on hand even though you know your own gyno predisposition by now and run standard pct which may or may not include an hcg jump start.
if your worrying about hairline you should know tren is pretty harsh in that department. not to mention tren will probably make you gain some pounds. i would use very low dose test prop with some anavar. make sure your doing some good cardio. if you really are determined at pure fat loss you could try clenbuetorol
mbp??
Thanks 4 the info
AnonMasteron is harsh on the hair line so if you have male pattern baldness in your family best avoid it.
AnonTest prop and anavar will get you there. To loose 4% though you are looking arround 12 weeks of that combo. Or go on a strict diet and you could do it at 8 weeks. You wont gain any weight on that stack and you will propably maintain your weight even at very low cals. Just dont eat everything you find. Masteron could help you as well have a look at that if you are not prone to mpb