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sugestions on using somthing other then D-bol . To kick start a cycle with .

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I've done some research about D-bol and some of the ill effects it can have on your liver . Can Anyone! recomend anything else to kick start my cycle with. That's not as harsh . I'am taking 500 mg. of test a week . I also have some prop to use . But I was going to use that to taper down at the end of the cycle . Can I also use it in the begining too ? If I've never used it before . What would be a safe dose to start off with ? Thanks ! For the help .

DannySmallwood's picture

If your only reason for not wanting to take dbol is the liver toxicity issue, then I would just take dbol because all the other oral steroids are liver toxic as well. Dbol is awesome. In addition to being an effective mass and strength builder, it is also a dopamine agonist, so it actually makes you feel awesome.

SL's picture

Dbol at a low dose is pretty safe, if your going to use prop I'd do 100 eod for first four weeks. Or you can just frontload your long ester test

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livingthedream's picture

All those orals liver toxic to one degree or another, use Liv52

Other than that, prop

Roid Noid's picture

Brother when you say "harsh" what exactly do you mean? Im asking cause ive read lots of stuff about D-bol and liver thats very badly overrated. If your talking about BP there is something to take to counteract that as well. (dont ask me the name cause I dont know but im sure someone here does)

renorob's picture

I guess ! Harsh as in. Can cause long term liver damaged . How much would you have to do ? And for how long . I know this is a dumb question . Sorry ! Newbie . But could you get liver damage from say 30mg for a month .

Roid Noid's picture

No bro you would be fine at that dose! 6 weeks is the general rule of thumb for time on for orals due to the issues with the liver, but the truth is you could probably due it for quite alot longer before you suffer irreversable liver damage, of course the exact time is unknown and would depend on the person and everything else(such as dosage, water intake, liv52, Etc), so dont be scared off by the hype.

Roid Noid's picture

Good info brother!

Trenabolic's picture

I'd go with Tbol

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kc17's picture

Use the prop

HllwdBdBoy's picture

AGREED!

renorob's picture

Thanks ! for the help

Trenabolic's picture

bulk or cut cycle?

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renorob's picture

Bulk cycle .

bosunm8's picture

Turanibol (tbol) look it up bro, less sides/water weight and less harsh on liver.

renorob's picture

Who has a good domestic source out there ? HG .