posted Sat, 10/29/2011 - 18:17
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Two orals at one time?
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Alright clearly this would be harsh on your liver, but im wondering if anybody has ever run two orals at once? If so what were the orals and what where your results, pro's and con's?
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i ran sdrol@40mgs for 4 weeks & epistane@50mgs a day for 7 weeks with no problems, i took 6 liv52 DS a day through out starting 2 weeks prior. im not saying thats is ok for you though coz everyone is different. i read something a while back stating that the damage to your liver over a 6 week period taking a methylated oral is like going out on the piss each weekend, now how true that is i dont know. it was ok but i think i was expecting too much.
i ran oxide t-bol @100mgs a day for 8 weeks and i preferred that cycle much more.
I ran 2 cycles of Var and T-Bol at the same time before I committed to pinning. I'm perfectly fine. Run liver juice or Liv52 during and after though.
tread-mI agree with Rods to some degree but this may be one of those times you say..."if you're not getting the answers you want, maybe you're asking the wrong questions"? I would be much more inclined to know dosage in addition to the 2. Some things as you know well have a very synergistic effect being combined and can be used in extremely low doses when together and have good benefit assuming training and diet are dialed in. If you were to use 2 orals in what people such as us here consider to be full dosing, I might say not a good idea. But if you went quarter dosing on 2 that play on each other well synergistically then I might be a yes. Having said that the only reason I can rationalize doing it outside the "low dose synergy" scenario would be if you have a test coming up for a sport etc. Outside of that I think I'm still a one oral and reach for the pin guy.
Well I aint planning on running any orals as of yet, personally I dont like them much. But im always thinking of the "Why Nots" if you know what I mean. So for example if you like T-bol and D-bol "Why Not" run them both at 25mg/d each? Or if you want to get big but dryer and hard "Why Not" T-bol and Anavar?...Thats all was just thinking if anybody else has done this and how it worked out for them. Clearly I like injectables and would perfer to go that way, but really havent heard much on this subject so was just wondering.
AnonTbol anavar should be great and you could run both at a decent dose 50mg each. Only prob is you will have to stop the tbol at week 4-5. It is nice and mild but i found the longer you run it the harder it is on your body. A nice cycle would be
Week 1-4 tbol 50mg
Week 1-12 var 50mg
Week 8-12 tbol 50mg
Along with injectables ofc
I wouldnt run tbol and dbol you would have insane acid reflux and heartburn since both cause it.
AnonAs long as one of them is anavar id say go for it. If you go for the harsh ones you need to alternate the days or half the dosage on both. I have run anavar with dbol and wasnt much different than running dbol alone. Which orals you thinking of running?
Agreed! (with the var reference) Not an orals fan myself, I tend to kick (everything) with test p : ) ...but i have run var with proviron (very mild combo) with test p
AnonEven with the silly stack i am running right now i still miss that clean look test p/proviron/anavar gives you. You can have all the size you want but the hard/clean look you get from t prop and var is priceless. Try and stay on it for 12 weeks then you will be laughing :), the perfect get on the beach look. Also take pics bro on your next bulk you will be stunned by the difference.
tread-mAre you talking about running your var the whole, staircase it, or bring it in the final third? Just curious, I use it as I please in a way that I would never recommend here given I know my body so well and its hard to with these younger guys. Curious on your though which you loike for that look?
AnonEven at 50mg it was working fine for me, used it for 9 weeks with sust and prop but i think i could easily go double that if i wanted. If i was on trt i would run it at 50mg for life propably. Like you i believe i know my body and when i take var i have even felt my liver recovering let alone getting affected. But like you say not something i want to recommend to others. Btw were your liver values ever affected from long stints of anavar?
tread-mIts something I would be real interested i knowing! I have never had long stints of it or any oral with exception of primobolin back when. Ran it for quite a while at one time but I was young and had no clue just depending on the older guys at the gym! Have not been real big on orals at all really but the var doesnt give me much concern and long term or maybe even work in mini cycles of it like a 6 on 6 off at 40 or 50 just to hold the quality. I think I'll do a little more digging and if I find anything thats not the typical BS or propaganda I'll let you know. Unfortunately our medical community combined with politics and pc thinking, we never get real science. I'm not an aids patient so I cant really rely on aids patient trials! Thank God for eroids....
AnonI have done a bit of research on it, if you use it for 4-5 months at a time it is ideal for the gains any more than that and you get diminishing returns/tolerance. So if you do 5 on 1-2 off then back 5 on again the only thing that should worry you is the heart. But the same worry is with using test year round i would think. All the research out there sucks it is either from the manufacturers or for AIDS patients like you say, but still if an aids patient can run it 24weeks i am sure we can do year round lol
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I have a buddy that LOVES anadrol/dbol at the same time, he says 20mg dbol 50mg anadrol and he blows up. Although hes been in the game for over 15 years, Im still a newbie and wouldnt try 2 orals at once honestly, thats just my opinion though