Human grade? Prove it!
Is there anyone here that actually knows they're taking real human grade?
Is there anyone that can prove their gear is accurately dosed?
There are so many fakes (some are amazingly packaged)
Do you really know what you're taking?
I wanna know if anyone has blood results while on cycle to at least prove
You're taking something legitimate. Lab testing compounds would be ideal but unless you gotta friend, this wont happen. Most guys are taking a supposed human grade but also underground at the same time and cant tell from using both.
Id like to see a review based on one brand testosterone (lets say if your testosterone was geofman brand only)
Of course we all stack different compounds, but how do we know which compound is what its supposed to be?
This is part of my quest to find real human grade.
A guy on here has his lab results after adding kigtrophin, this excited everyone.
Id like to see more proof of legitimacy (there are liars though) to benefit all of us.
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man now you're making me think that the ones i bought from wesellmeds might be fake as hell. But they look so real. I even pinned myself for 2 weeks with the stuff and it made me feel much more pump than with AB's test e.. I think ab's stuff is underdosed though.
Fakes don't always mean bunk, just means the maker is getting extra, and the dosage could be anything from way under to slightly over. Quality control would be lacking from HG / Pharma standards.
Very true but anyone that counterfeits should automatically not be trusted...
Very true.
That would pretty much be everyone in the steroid industry. You think Lixus has a license to to make Test Cyp???
Agreed.....
But at least they are using their own name. Ugs come and go, rise then fall...
But counterfeits hide behind good names which means guaranteed sale.
As you said, counterfeit doesnt always mean bunk, but counterfeits are like ugs. They
make enough good quality to keep rep up but then purposely make crap to save money and still sell.
The inconsistencies of reviews wont stray the curious. These scammers reply on the curious
I would much rather put my trust on a ugl then a counterfeit. At least the ugl has a reputation to uphold. The counterfeit can more easily put god knows what into it's gear and move on to another hg to counterfeit.
If you think about it, an UGL's could be ruined with a bad batch or 2,
A new name/ label and flip off tops and website and they are new again.
Nothing it this business is for ever......NOTHING
This is true they can still have some good stuff I'n em or have nothing but cooking oil. I'm sure I've had my share of suger pills.
Given that Amps sell at a slight premimum over vials (price / ml), the larger investment in the equipment to fill and seal amps compared to vials (remember you need to seal 10 amps for every 1 vial) and the printing equipment to print on amps (vials just get a sticker/label), one might expect the supplier of amps may try a little harder to keep a good name/quality (otherwise they could have invested equipment sitting idle)
Makes sense....
But thats exactly what these frauds capitalize on, your assumptions of amps being more difficult/complicated to make. Why would anyone assume fake when we've made it so "perfect"
its just like counterfeit clothing, its 2011 you can fake anything.
Have you seen those fake nike shox? Amazingly real.... Lol
I guess my point was it is harder to sell a source 5,000 fake real amps after you have sold them a shit load of fake bunk ones. Word gets around.
True that, vials are a lot easier to fake then amps. But, this is not to say they arent faking amps. I have seen some fake amps they are out there albeit they aren't as comen as vials.
In some of these countries, the fakes and the reals come out of the same factory.
"Hey Iman, this testosterone is only 228 mg/ml (should be 250), what do we do?"
"Let the night shift bottle it after the bosses go home (wink). I'll tell them we had to dump it."
Lol possibility. Where there Is money to be mad you never know.
Just look at the list of countries they come from.
You don't see the US, Britian, Canada, Japan, ie: countries that have a history of quality, and I'm not talking rugs here guys. Would you buy an airplane, camera, car or truck from Pakistan,....I don't think so..............a rug or bag of fertilizer maybe.
I think its good you feel something.....
Whats your cycle and brand.
dude the legit look of these fakes amaze me.
how accurate are ur ml amounts in each amp?
Not sure where I read that 80% hg gear out there isnt real.
Sources dont even know!
I dont buy this "we buy direct from manufacturer"
Your telling me some random person can ask (lets say organon/schering)
for their products yet arent pharmacies?
Oh wait they say they buy in countries where aas isnt illegal. Where exactly is that? Id like to know.
they were testoviron depot! from pakistan.. The guy who sold shipped it from there as well.. I'll post new pics. please let me know, if their fake might as well throw them in the garbage.
Take good pics, testovirion by schering is majorly counterfeited.
are they amber with white/red lettering?
Look at rbbgears blogspot, they show real/fake testovirion, I think.
As far as wesellmeds, they have both zafa sustonon which is usually not filled right and those organon fake sustanon with propionate spelled propIonate. Those organons are known fakes.
People need to post good pics of their amps and sources from which they came.
I regret that I didnt.
they are amber man. I have pics.. give me a sec
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9108/img1435f.jpg
http://imageshack.us/f/41/img1436lr.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/695/img1437mr.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/88/img1439w.jpg/
I think those are good but idk, dont trust pakistan. I think you've got legit ones
http://rbbgear.blogspot.com/search/label/testoviron
Yup there are some near perfect fakes out there. Just look at the norma deca or the cialis pics i posted up. Those are near perfect replicas.
Ive received fakes of the following:
Caspian tamin (androne test e)
Galenika (test e)
Sustanon (organon)
Alburian (test e)
Not sure ive spelt these correctly....
all looked amazingly real, packaging was amazing.
all fake....
Does anyone carry other human grade brands rather than the standard
(organon, schering, jelfa, alburian, caspian tamin, galenika, geofman, etc)
Again spelling might be off....
These brands all have one thing in common...high counterfeit rates.
I wanna see: watson, belco, steris, upjohn, huffman, gynex,etc.....
i have bought some human grade, honestly i think its legit. But there is this UGL that i bought from.. which I'm not gonna switch from.
a buddy of mine gets prescribed hg from an "anti aging doc" and was kind enough to give me a bottle of test e 300mg for my first cycle. I was very timid to use it and only ran 275mg a week for 8 weeks. I gained 25lbs. thats the real deal just hard to come by. just like bodybuilder i been using ugl and havent bothered with anything else.
I agree bro, way to many really good fakes out there. Its almost imo impossible to get real human grade off the internet. Like most my first couple of cycles were all human grade. After finding out the hard way that most so called HG gear off the web is fake i decided to go ugl and have not looked back ever since. I belive it is safer to take a well respected ugl then some fake HG.