posted Fri, 10/21/2011 - 20:34
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can i pin test e and deca?
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The first 10wks of my 12wk cycle Ill be runing 400mg test e and 200mg deca but Id prefer to pin twice as opposed to four times a week. Can I pin 200mg test 100mg deca, which would only be 1.2cc's, twice per week or is it a bad idea to mix two compounds in one injection?
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I mix all the time; never had any issues.
Hey mate you only start having trouble mixing when you try and mix oil and water based gear. Mixing oils is fine. As for what hlldbdboy says is also the go. Try a single type run first. That being said a test and nandrolone mix is always a good way to go. Good luck with it all.
The advice seems consistent so Im taking it. May run the deca my second or third cycle.
There you go. There is plenty of time to add compounds no need rush into tings and mix a shit load of gear then have to play a guessing game. Take your time and get to know your body bro.
u can mix oils bro, but if u don't ind me asking whats ur history? you sound pretty new (based on ur question) so if this ur first cycle i would recommend a straight test cycle. the reason "we" recommend straight test is that if you begin to experience sides, you will know which compound is causing them. hence, you will know how to treat them. are you aware of what the possible sides are for test? for deca? how to treat them? if you don't I'd strongly suggest some research! (and I still say go with a straight test cycle)
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you're right im a newb. i am aware of some of the side effects of test (acne, hair loss, etc.) but as far as deca the main side effect im worried about is "deca dick" which is why im planning on taking twice the dose of test that i do deca. only reason i even considered the deca is because ive allways had bad joints and at 32 they arent getting any better lol. i read that test actually decreases callogen synthesis but that deca helps to increase the rate of callogen synthesis.
My first cycle I ran test, dbol,deca, long story short around week 6 I started lactating from progesterone side effects from the deca, I wasn't expecting that to happen so I had nothing on hand to combat the problem, I would agree that a test only cycle is a good first. I still have to small lumps behind each nipple that won't go away. All I read prior to that was deca was very low on sides and progesterone problems were rare so I went with it and ended up a milky titted dumbass. Hope that helps
tread-mI have repaired my joints over the years witbh glucosamine/chondroiten...I think it will benefit you even in the early going as it is the only compound approved for actual cartilage rebuilding. I had a bad knee joint that stopped bothering me in a few weeks upon beginning its use and never bothered me since. Test only as H said. You have the joint issue and doing it right is worth having them a little longer. If you insist on running the deca at least wait untill week 4 to start it in your cycle. Gives you a little time to evaluate your early response to test but again, its test only for me. The upside of starting right as well is that you have more tools for future use. Plenty of time you're young brother.
Thx for the tip, I bought a couple containers of Animal Flex which contains glucosamine and chondroiten but was iffy about if they actually worked since most supps dont. Glad to hear they do, Ill be doing as you and hllwd suggested and saving the deca for another cycle. Straight test this rip, good looking out yall.
running test at 2x the dose is a "correct" ratio, bro. but take my word for it , you will make monster gains off 500 test and @500 sides should be minimal (unless ur gyno-prone, which will NOT go unnoticed LOL) Dial in you diet (which is the actual dictator of gains) save the deca for the next cycle and in the mean time do a little research on 19nor's (I see the look on ur face... thats why you should do the research)
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I think Ill do as you and tread-m suggested and save the deca for another time. Ive been reading the boards for a while and you two ALLWAYS give solid advice so Ill take it lol. Test-e 500mg/wk it is. Is 12wks too long for a first cycle, I figure the test wont kick in till week 4 or 5 so would 10wks be to short a period to see real gains?
Kudos bro! 10-12 is standard, I like 12... (IMO)I think some ppl go 10 cuz it makes for an even vial count (LOL)
*AGAIN - Key to gains is DIET!
Interested in hearing ur progress brother : )
BEAT THAT DRUM lol, jk good comment bro, as always useful information. Just had to one up me huh haha..
Yep you can pull both oils into the same syringe, wont mess anything up. I would suggest changing the needle though, can get a little dull after going through both of the rubber stoppers.
No problem at all. You can mix both and pin at the same time. Where are u pining?
Ill be pining glutes and depending on PIP i may switch between glutes and quads.