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+ 5 I guess I overdid it with TRT-dose with gear from Pharmacomstore

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Have been on TRT for a few years now.

I was diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism actually with 21 (no cycle or prohormones or anything; didn´t even lift back then; my brother also has the same thing) and have been treated with HcG and I responded well. The last few years I started to buy my own stuff (many reasons; insurance thing) but still go in for the occasional blood test.

I have been on 150mg TestE from pharmacomstore (split into 3x per week 50mg subq injection just as people do with insulin because I find it much more convenient) for about 3 months and take 3x 0.25mg anastrozole and 250iu HcG along with it.

Actually this dosage is way too high I see and will reduce back to 100mg/week but will keep the HcG and anastrozole the same. Will retest in about 2 months with the goal to be at the upper end of the reference range.

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fusebox's picture

So 150 mg gets you to 835 is what I'm reading. I think that would be good. 200 mg of same brand got me to 1450. Which is too high. +2 for bloods

Dacky's picture

It puts him Total Testosterone at 1154ng/dl which is a tad high. My guess it’s the 250iu 3 x per week causing this and not the test being overdosed. Dropping this back to 100mg per week and possibly pulling back a bit on the AI should do the trick.

Edit: all that said his free testosterone is looking fine and in range so leaving it all alone is perfectly acceptable. My endo would look at this and this alone when adjusting doses. Bioavailable levels look high but my endo wouldn’t even look at these numbers and never requests them - I don’t know why but I will ask him when I next see him.

gabrielkilmister's picture

Correct me if I'm wrong but what I see in his blood exam is:

  • Total Test: 18.84 ng/ml or 1884 ng/dl

  • Free Test: 1.61 nmol/l or 50,62 ng/dl

  • Bioavailable Test: 29.10 nmol/l or 915 ng/ml

If my math is right I'd say these numbers are indeed high for just 150mg. But as you said the HCG is probably the reason for it.
If the goal is TRT I'd say 1884 ng/dl isn't really ideal. But as you said I'd also suggest to drop it to 100mg or simply drop the HCG (if there isn't a very specific reason for it like fertility) and check the blood again when possible.

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Dacky's picture

Yes sorry you’re maths is right - mine was totally off. Too early in the morning when I did this. I had a similar result but much higher estrogen on 125mg per week of Pharma Test E and 250iu EOD of HCG (all prescribed) stopped the HCG and dropped the test e dose to 100mg per week and was right at 850 ng/dl where I should be. We should not underestimate what HCG can do.

EagerToLearn's picture

Yes definitely. I am very sensitive to HcG and in the past 3x 500iu per week put my test at about 1800.