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Started with a baseline of Matrix Test Cyp 250 2x per week for about a month. Then the entire month of August and September doing the Matrix Test Prop 1 ml 200 mg ED. My Test levels were insane. 5299 on 8/21 and 7630 on 9/10. My estrogen levels are crazy so I slowed everything down. But the matrix gear is potent as all get out. I tried a bunch of different AI's but nothing was getting my estro down. I think I had another med interfering with it because 3 different vendors and same product didn't make my estrogen go down even on high doses. Just so you are aware, don't try doing high doses of AI. Your hair will get thinned out really quick.

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Bigcw's picture

With that much test hope you were on at least some great generic hgh at least 5-6 iu daily to even freely absorb and use that amount of test

MITCH 23's picture

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Great post

thanks

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2500hd's picture

I wander if your new line has Tren in it with E levels that high and Ai's not working

2500hd's picture

Labcorp can't distinguish tren from estro so in return the users bloodwork shows super high estro even when taking Ai's and estro is within normal levels. Just saying its a possibility of what's happening

budzang's picture

I found some research backing up your claim. Labcorp's Roche ECLIA method shows tren as a false positive for estradiol.

http://www.eroids.com/pics/tren-causing-bogus-elevated-estradiol-levels-...

Here is another link..

http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/updated-tren-causing-bo...

budzang's picture

Interesting observation. I didn't know Labcorp lumps tren in with estro even though it's not estro. Because I was hitting about 100-120 mg of tren ace a day at the time, plus mast p 70 mg.

2500hd's picture

Levels that high I knew tren was involved

Hud-Bomb84's picture

Holy fuck!!!! Those test levels are ridiculous! Lol. You ever get that estro under wraps? I'm asking in case that ever happens to me, I want to know what to do and what helps.

budzang's picture

I had to let everything crash to rock bottom because I got some gyno issues. I ran Nolva for 2 weeks. Now I run Nolvadex 25 mg ED with my cycles along with Arimadex .25 mg ED. I'll phase out the Nolva if I find it unnecessary

Hud-Bomb84's picture

Oh ok. Nice. If I ever have a little bit of gyno issues I'll keep this in mind. I'm in awe from the test levels. Lol. Good shit bro.

2500hd's picture

Nolva reduces the effects of letro and arimidex by about 60%

budzang's picture

That is good to know. I'll stick to the letro for now in small amounts because it is supposed to be the most highly potent AI on the market. Any hint of gyno symptoms I'm hitting the nolva. That stuff does well for reversing gyno related issues.