2nd Pin completed and my tweaks to avoid similiar PIP to first Pin
All, I completed my second Pin of 1.7 ml 250mg/ml veryon test e in my left quad. My first Pin was pretty easy but for 3 days I could hardly use my legs and I need them to squat almost everyday. I got some great advice on my previous post and I tweaked my second pin to hopefully bring down PIP this time around.
First pin thread:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-pin-completed
What I did differently:
1. Took hot shower before Pin
2. Pinned in the morning
3. Heated oil with hair dryer for one minute
4. Injected all oil slowly and took 90 seconds to complete
5. Left needle in my quad for 15 seconds after Pin
6. Took hot bath for 15 minutes after Pin and massaged my leg to whole time
7. Working from home today and I have had my heat blanket on my left quad all day
8. Worked in the garden for 30 minutes
9. Explosive training tonight.
I will report in this thread my feeling day one, day two, and day three to compare to my first time.
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One addition to your injection protocol that I use is after you leave the needle sit for the 15-30 seconds (I use 30) is that once I pull the needle out I apply direct pressure to the injection site immediately for 2 minutes. I received this info from a doctor who says that by applying immediate pressure to the injection site for the 2 minutes, you prevent any air to get into the puncture wound thus preventing blood from seeping into the muscle. He also says that rubbing/massaging is useless. PIP is inevitable, but you can reduce swelling and some of the more severe symptoms by following the protocol you mentioned. I don't use a hair dryer but let the vial sit in hot water for a couple minutes while I hit the hot shower (keeping neck of vial well above water level). Hope this is helpful.
Quad shot.....use 25Ga needles . Warm the oil. Rotate areas. Or hit upper outer glutes. A 25Ga takes longer to inject but not as much kapow of fat needle. Quads have more veins and nerves. Aspirate....pull back plunger to make sure not in vein. Also did you let a lil oil squeeze out onto needle BEFORE injection? That's imporyant as it lubes the needle for easy pin. And were you sitting comfortably during pin? Standing pinches and moves thay needle around during inje,tion. Pain can come from slam and force oil in fast as possible. I stood once and muscles flexed....pulled out bent needle. Nice bruisr and it hurt.