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I know all of you vets say to just run test for the first one or two cycles. What’s the purpose behind that? Just seeing how your body reacts? Im really considering just running low dose test (150-200 pending bloods) and adding 25 of var a day to go along with it. Just want some genuine veteran advice.
Depends on how hard you lift prior. If youve been full tilt on gym and foods then a small dose of just test is atomic. If you have a few months lifyin and dont know diet then go buy a lotto ticket
Also you can only grow so much on one cycle, you could take 100 different steroids and your not gunna gunna gain more than 12-20 pounds. So even if there was no negatives there’s still no benefit to running more than just test for your first cycle because you’ll grow the same with the test by itself. Your body’s never been “on gear” before, you can turn it “on” with just test, where as a veteran may need two or three compounds to turn it “on”.
My first cycle I ran 100mg deca ew and 15mg of dbol ed and I put on 20-25 lbs, I would run test 250 a week see how u respond there will always be plenty of time down the road to run var and experiment with different compounds a little goes a long way good luck.
Yeah the more I research, the more I wanna stay away from dbol. I’ve heard great things and fucking terrible things hahaha
Gauge how your body reacts to a single compound as you stated.
You will need less and get “newbie gains” that you won’t get as quickly in the future.
Longevity & efficiency!
There’s a reason so many guys preach it over and over.
Are you already on TRT? I am curious what is making you think 150mg/wk is worth shutdown if not.
Have an AI and full PCT on hand before anything!
Not on TRT, just looking to do the classic “lowest dose as possible”. I’m already at the bottom end of the test ref range (~300). Like I said, first cycle so just dipping my toes in the water. I trust folks in here rather than some random John Doe in other forums. Definitely open to higher dose.
You think it’d be wise to start on a low dose, and build up as my body reacts or start somewhere in the 250-300 range and go from there.
Sidenote, thank for the insight everyone.
Run a solid 12weeks minimum. 150mg twice a week or 100mg 3 times a week. About week 6 your gunna look in the mirror and seesome changes. You'll feel it to. And uncs gear is top notch. I've seen 1200ng test scores with just 200mg a week.
do u recommend titan as a source? or another one over it?
Definitely, just do your homework first.
Definetly reccomend titans. Also don't ask about reccomending sources on another sources page.
Whoops. I definitely should've realized not to ask for other sources. That is my bad. I've been planning a 300mg cycle, but damn, finding sources is pretty nerve-racking. I see so many good reviews and then see a few bad ones, and it makes me rethink everything. But yeah, I'll probably get two tests c 250mg with some Ai in case(most likely won't need, but never know)
All good. I can tell you since your here that's titans gear is no joke. Absolutely love his orals. Always prepare right. Have your ai and pct on hand when you start your cycle so that there's no issues if and when you do need them.
I appreciate the advice and I’ll take ur word alongside a lot of the comments here. For PCT I got clomid(I’ve used before with no sides) but I’m seeing very bad things about Clomid and told to grab something else like Nov. imma probably stick to Clomid since A)have used it for a long time(doctor had me start on it when I was like 21 due to low T outside lifestyle control and for over a year.) what would you recommend for PCT? You have a preference?(unless ofc ur on TRT as well)
Clomid and nolva. Clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20
Starting off with just test allows you to see how your body reacts with it. Personally I'd go at least 300mg a week, 150 to 200 is trt dose BUT you could have very responsive receptors and accept test well. Var can suppress test levels as well, yes it's one of the safer ones to take but starting with just test with the right diet and training will be plenty trust me. Also var is very expensive so personally I'd wait till your going to cut weight and about 12% max bf to go lower.
I've been using 2 of their 5mg var chewed up and put under the tongue 1 hour pwo for a few weeks now. Def gives me some extra strength and turns my forearms and calves into waterway maps with they way my veins get swollen.
are you only running 10mg a day?
I've never ran anavar that low, I guess if you're letting it absorb sublingual it's still stronger than 15mg reg var but I wouldn't have expected much from 10mg.
You've peaked my interest as I've been experimenting with low doses of various compound for a long time. my go to is 10mg of dbol.
I’ve used your “lady var” as well. 3 pills a day. Morning, lunch, night. For 15mg total. Results were absolutely noticeable. Lipids didn’t take as bad of a hit, but it still dropped my HDL below the lower end of ref range.
add in some gw on top of that, will fix those lipids right up
Take 10mg daily of yours too. Can’t quite tell what flavor that little white pill is supposed to be though lol
I do it twice a week typically. I had used other brands before anywhere from 10-25 mg pwo. Your 10 hits harder than the other 10 but not as strong as the 25mg.
The anavar is gtg. You'll get crazy pump with just 1 tab preworkout. Vascularity is insane by week 2
Heck man anything & everything from here is g2g imo!
People expect too much sometimes with var and I think that leads to some of the false claims. Keep in mind it’s not going to be anything too crazy pronounced like ADROL or DBOL feeling it instantly like a pwo. You may not even notice that vascularity at the start if you have much body fat.
The cumulative effects are amazing though! Absolutely love the mental clarity and “get shit done” feeling it gives me. Not as toxic compared to many orals. Makes me super vascular and goes hand in hand with cutting.
You’ll be hard pressed to find many people that dislike Anavar (considering it was real).
Defenetley understand your point of view. I'm relatively lean so I get vascularity within days. Some folks expect var to shred pounds of fat within a short period of time.
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First cycle tho. I’ve seen people recommend test only, but Anavar seems pretty mild as long as you’re pairing something for liver support. I dunno. Just looking for suggestions.
Ya your first 2 cycle just run test, you could add var at the last 4 weeks of your second just be aware it will trash your lipids profile. But uncs Var is top notchhh