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thats a long first cycle, i'd keep it where you are and run it 10-12 weeks instead. Recover with a good pct and then plan another cycle. you'll get plenty of gains from this
Ok for sure. Do all of you pct? My plan was too blast & then cruise at a lower dose (100-150mg) still figuring out my sweet spot to testosterone so that # might change. I've heard its bad to pct, its better to just blast and cruise but let me know what y'all do.
If I should pct, what would yall recommend?
if you are 51, then blast and cruise is where it's at. Get that script, it's fairly easy and it gives you a bit more freedom of movement. Since you're just getting in to it, start slow, your receptors are going to be fresh, 100mg a week will be plenty for trt, maybe in the future you'll need to go up but for now, try to get down to the mid/high range on trt then blast cycles as desired
Is the age in your profile accurate? I highly recommend going through a professional to get your trt levels dialed in. Lots of good endo’s or urologists that specialize or worst case find a reputable online clinic- most will take bloods a few times the first year then drop down to 2x a year or even annually once stabilized.
Personally just peace of mind having someone else read over my labs and knowing I found a dose that is proper for my body.
Now of course you can figure this out on your own, but be sure to research the long list of things you need to stay on top of.
If you are older than 35-40 I’d just say go with the TRT route. You don’t want to blast/cruise forever as anything over your natural production can put unnecessary stress on your system, but I do agree at these ages it’s much easier on the body to drop down to a therapeutic dose instead of restarting natural production with extreme drugs. You will also lose a lot more progress during the PCT time compared to just dropping test down to TRT level.
Keep in mind you will have to do a fertility protocol along with anything if you want to keep the family jewels full and working.
It’s endless research and learning, but it’s a fulfilling journey man!
Do you happen to know your natural level or have you ever gotten bloods to test it?
Nah all of thats bs, Im 25. I got my blood work before with my natural levels. My total t was 828ng/dl, and my estrogen was 20pg/ml.
The only thing i haven't looked into is fertility, not a big concern for me rn but down the line for sure.
You need to eat more at those stats
Those are some pretty good test levels. I hope you are at or near your max genetic potential. I almost jumped on this train at your age but knew I wanted a few more kids so I waited til then bc I didn’t want to deal with fertility issues.
No pct for me first time doing pct I broke out in cystic acne so now I cruise and blast at 40yrs old
If you plan on cruising (I'm sure you already know this, but just in case) you are essentially committing to being on trt for life. If you aren't okay with this, then definitely PCT.
Yup im ok with being on it for the rest of my life.
Boom! 10-12 weeks and blood test week 4 to see if he needs grape aromasin. Hows pct looking and how??
Yup. Read what I said on Yoked comment, I planned to not even pct? just blast and cruise
Like Uncle stated getting script can save you from many headaches.
I didn't look at your stats, at your age trt cruise is fine, talk it over with a doc as well. do you have your starting labs?
Yuh, 828 total test & estrogen was at 20pg/ml
Yeah those long esters you won’t “feel” much except placebo until saturated. You may get a little boost, but remember testosterone isn’t going to hit you like a recreational drug. You’re not going to feel invincible or be “high” off the stuff.
Now don’t let that be a deterrent the mental effects, confidence, energy, etc. WILL all start and will only continue as you begin to see physical changes. That dose is plenty good to make gains on for a first timer. Next few cycles you do experiment with different esters- you can use things like Sustanon on a more frequent pinning schedule to get a mix of short and long esters, or even front load a test E cycle with prop the first couple weeks to get that “feeling” much faster.
As @ScrawnyRunt said- dial everything in. Your diet is the majority of what is going to determine the outcome. Know that this space is constantly evolving and always practice humility by having an open mind to learning new things and possibly changing to the best practice for you.
Best of luck my man!
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Best of luck brother man! The first are always some of the best especially if you’re dialed in.
Are you truly sub 5%?! If so, bulk. Bulk. Bulk. You should just be inhaling damn near everything you can sub 5% and attempting to grow on a first cycle.
Even if eating in large amounts keep it as clean as you can though of course.
Thank you for the advice. I will lock in with the food.
Nah I put some bs for my profile im 5'7 155, If i had to guess anywhere from 8-10% body fat
8-10 is extremely striated, ripped. Might be honest bro to get real advice
Yes you're correct
Hey bud. You should reach peak blood levels between weeks 4 and 6. Seems like you may want to do some research, though. No disrespect intended, but this is common knowledge. Make sure your injection schedule is right, diet is on point, kill it in the gym, and get proper sleep. Make sure you have your pct lined up and all other support items on hand.
No disrespect taken. Thank you for the advice. Plan is to pin 2x / week. I have everything on hand in case anything gets out of wack. Feel like the biggest thing for me is the diet, gotta lock in with that and eat consistently. Im currently a fucking twig lmao but that will change fasho
If you're a twig, eat. If there is any point in the day that you feel hungry at all, you're doing it wrong.
What is your age, height, weight, lifting experience?
5'7 155lbs, been lifting for 3-4 years.
Im abt to force feed like a mf. ill try to keep it clean tho
PenisPulverizerHcg restock timeframe?!!
about a week or so
let's get some reviews going fellas
Just posted one.
Good to hear youre enjoying your cycle!! Its too easy to get wild and cycle becomes a chore. Happy growing!
Thanks bud. I appreciate the feedback you've given.
Getting blood work done mid way through & after, will update you then