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inked's picture

I always run low test and high tren. I get virtually no sides, except for some insomnia. The results I get speak for themselves.

SuperMax's picture

^^^ this guy,... is shredded

want2bbigger's picture

I was going to ask the same question. Because I'm living proof that that shit def works as long as you are near single digit bf% when you start it. 2-250 mgs of test and 4-600 mgs of tren ace per week is a pretty common formula for contest prep, along with whatever other cutting compounds you want to throw in for good measure but I believe the test and tren is plenty.

The Impastable's picture

It's also about reducing sides experienced the other way around, which for a majority if tren users will happen. Only certain individuals have better luck running high t low tren dosages.

That and they fight for the same receptors, so you're letting the test get out of the way of tren, so to speak.

Big Tone36's picture

Only side tren give me is extreme heartburn. Other than that I'm good. Ive ran test up to 1200 mgs with no sides as well with only.5 mg adex e.o.d. i guess I'm lucky. I think we have plenty of receptors to go around with out floading them with really extreme dosages most of us will never do

The Impastable's picture

The heartburn can get brutal. Lucky you though, consider yourself one of the few I've met who can handle the reverse ratio.

As for receptors, I'd rather keep mine free for tren to do the work, even if I never saturate all of them, it's more of a precautionary thing than anything. I wonder if there will ever be a test to figure out the receptor saturation point that's commercially available, given how fast all this biotechnology keeps growing.

Big Tone36's picture

Great approach. I think its impossible to tell and every one is different. I think people need to go on feel and rate of muscle growth and sticking points things of that nature. Also consider food intake and supplementation. So many factors

Big Tone36's picture

Yes maybe last week or 2 leading up to a show its common to cut ur test down but other than that nah. I like my dick working good. Some of u don't care about that maybe

twistedsister's picture

I'll throw that shit at her limp hahaha

TrenAllDay's picture

hit it with a floppy ahahah

twistedsister's picture

Tell her its not me its you see if that helps.... lol

Big Tone36's picture

Tee hee or just take a hit of RP viagra

The Impastable's picture

Any Ed issues from tren use usually arise from prolactin being high...

If it works for you, great. But for the majority of users of tren a 1.5:1 tren/test is recommended as a starting point because.... Ding ding ding, less sides.

twistedsister's picture

Even 1:1 Deca didnt stop my me but my prolactin stayed in check only 1 point out of range nothing to worry about but havent ran it in awhile definitely will run test higher next time tho that was awhile back.

Only thing i ever had mess with me is high dose hcg will do it

Big Tone36's picture

Deca the worst for me couldn't nut for 3 months even after 10000 i.u. hcg and 2 weeks of Clomid. Fk that noise i rather eq all day. Better quality gains lot less bloat and no dick issues.

twistedsister's picture

I like how it makes my joints feel, the hunger, and the quick rounded gains it brings ... not quality lbm but still i honestly think its one of my favorite compounds shoulders felt great even doing alot of behind the back pull ups military press.
Never ran eq but got some in route cant wait just going to be real careful working up as high as i do CBC's are good just donated blood im ready

Big Tone36's picture

No back then that was my pct protocol 1000 i.u. hcg for 10 days and Clomid 100mg a day first week 50 mg second week. It was good when i was running only 500mgs test 400mg deca a week for 10wks. The deca seemed to linger a while. System came back online

twistedsister's picture

I dont think he's referring to pct but could be wrong just trying to restore testicular function on cycle .. could be wrong tho
Deca just shuts you down hard and regardless of what they say that part is not related entirely to prolactin imo its the nature if the compound.

Bridging with clomid never is not a good idea you want your body to naturally signal the pituitary gland to secrete fsh and lh on its own but hey what ev's

Big Tone36's picture

Would never take Clomid on cycle. Hcg too bring the balls back

twistedsister's picture

What do you mean completely shut down as in secondary hypogonadism ? Or just having a hard recovery ? Your best option if you are hoping to recover your natty hormone production is time of broffesor... not sure if im on the same page as you anymore though.

daksmack's picture

Dude, tren is one of the first, it was a different name. Do some research brother, many took it and have for some time.

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Big Tone36's picture

Parabolan or tren hex which came in 76 mg amps back in the days. I personally never heard any one using them til the 90's i could be wrong. Point is i was tryin to make befor all u cats got ur history books and start criticizing is you can get great results with other compounds.

SuperMax's picture

Ha!! Half the people on here could get the same results they have without compounds at all!!

--RP4U--'s picture

THIS^^^ LOL

Big Tone36's picture

Probably. Havent seen to many people with impressive pics they look like regular gym go ers

TrenAllDay's picture

What's parabolan then?

Manshit's picture

One of the first steroids I ever had experience with.When I played collage football in the late 80's.In fact I did a no test parabolan and anadrol cycle.Believe it or not I got strong as hell and cut weight rapidly.I didn't know anything back then.I just did what my coach told me.It may have fucked me up but as far as strength and fat loss it was spot on.I also got to a 4.7 forty yard dash at around 240lb.Now I am not condoning this type of cycle,but that was my experience.

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