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Apollo333's picture

Lol I know what you mean. Libido is fuckin important to a man so the more the better, I've only ran tren twice (a little strong for me) but acetate made libido through the roof and I get atrophy anyway and when I ran it I got serious pain down there like aching all the time (then again I was on 800 mg test a week the most I've ever done and it was only my 4th cycle so way too soon for tren lol but hey man I didn't know anything about forums only info I got was from bros at the gym) and hcg is what helped me I'm sure the vets with more experience might have a better alternative but I'm sure hcg in small doses won't cause too much prolactin increase

Apollo333's picture

I run it at 500iu twice a week which is probably too much, you can probably get sex drive back on a smaller amount I just stick to 1000iu a week cuz I like it and it really does help with sex drive

Apollo333's picture

Yessir thank you I've been on it for a couple years but during cycle it does cause a little estro increase

Apollo333's picture

Plus hcg gives you like an immediate effect at least it does for me which I really like to use in between the longer ester's on a cycle basically because I always feel like I need to take something for energy and most everything else is just placebo but hcg really helps with it and it's almost like an immediate sex drive increase for me

Apollo333's picture

If you're using it for pct though (I just cruise) then I'd probably run at least 3000iu a week but I'd definitely get confirmation from someone more knowledgeable about using it for pct before hand I've never done a pct went from being on TRT to blasting and cruising lol

Makwa's picture

If you are going to PCT then run it during your cycle once you notice atrophy. 250iu 3x/wk up until PCT should be plenty. Don't run it during PCT since it produces a negative feedback loop with your LH and prevent recovery.

Apollo333's picture

Yessir, see I wouldn't know this, just know the basic overload until the boy's come back that gym bros say to do lol

Makwa's picture

I have to do a complete reboot since I haven't used any for several years while on TRT. I'll be doing about 1500iu 3x/wk for about 3 wks to bring em back since it has been a long time then I will go back to 250iu 3x/wk to maintain while cycling and on TRT.
I need to get another order in soon now.

Apollo333's picture

Yeah I ended up dropping another order of hcg through DC along with my regular, I've stayed at 500iu for TRT and on cycle, just have to do bloods often cuz estro can get out of hand pretty fast, as you saw estro was at 110 and that was at half an adex split twice a week 24 hours after shot so I bumped it up to 1mg a week should get bloods back this week. I think I'm gunna switch to your 250iu three times a week will probably help keep estro in check

Apollo333's picture

I think there's studies showing that it keeps the testes producing to a certain extent during cycle allowing for a quicker recovery but both methods are proven to work, it's worth a Google lol

Apollo333's picture

I know it works for guy's at the gym but I think what makwa Is saying the same thing can be accomplished without negative feedback to LH so I agree with you he is right, but it does work the other way

Makwa's picture

The more you can spread those shots out the less spikes you should have in estro. When on TRT you kind of have to play around with the dose and frequency to get on an even keel. Anything more than 500-750iu/wk is likely to much when on TRT.

Apollo333's picture

Makwa is the man to ask dudes a plethora of great information

Makwa's picture

I think some antibiotics might suit you better than HCG Lol

Apollo333's picture

That's awesome I've definitely been worried about prolactin so it's good to know I don't need to worry about anything but estro --

Cornfeed's picture

Don't know about helping with pain but you best leave them lot lizards alone for a bit until it clears up. Lol. On a serious note it will plump your nuts back up and can (maybe) get swimmers going again. HMG is better for this. Be careful how high you go with it, it will increase your estrogen level for a lot of people.

press1's picture

Hahaha What's a lot lizard? Scratch one-s head

press1's picture

Hahaha Yeh I don't think we do, the car parks for the trucks defo don't have any women in em Lol The truckers here are always fat and ugly

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