Search bar. Plenty of info here on resuspending gear. NPP is notorious for crashing. Very simple to fix. Pro tip- check under the stopper for crystals. They'll hide up in there and immediately bind w/the rest of the solution and cause it to re-crystalize.
Just placed an order. Been ordering from Tom for a long time, his product is always good to me. The aromasin has always been top notch. The cockbombs have my girlfriend REQUESTING to pay for them. Good thing its 50% off, hard to beat these promos and prices.
Toms communication has alwyas been top notch too, throughout all of it. Looking forward to trying the EQ, Toms products always make a good cycle.
I’ll post a review with pictures of blood work later when I have time. But I have ordered 6 vials DHB, 5 vials NPP, 6 vials Test C, 120 var, 120 tbol, aromasin, and HCG from DC Pharma. I say this to say I’ve spent some money there. My total test and sensitive E2 on 140mg of my Dr prescribed test C is ~1300 and 30, respectively. My cycle of 420mg of test has me at 1787 and 60 after 10 weeks, respectively. Neither of these I’m taking an AI. I do daily injections and doing it that way I’ve never had to use an AI. I do bloods 4-5x a year and every time it’s in the morning before my next daily injection. I’m not claiming it’s bunk. I’m just saying one would think total test would increase more than 400-500 from a 3x increase in test dosage.
Edit. I do also want to say I’ve never had but positive results ordering from DC Pharma. They respond to emails. The TAT from order to my door has always been less than 10 days. Packaging is good. This is over 4 orders.
Still same batch of test e and c. I am about to have to re up as it’s starting to run out. But here are bloods with test c and test e if this helps you out.
Yea. Hormones can be tricky. I have plenty of other vials to keep testing. I posted a review with a pic of the bloodwork for the total/free/E2 on it just now as promised.
Edit: https://www.eroids.com/pics/dc-pharma-test-c-dhb-and-anavar
There's the link to my full blood work. No metabolic panel on these, because I had this ordered off a discount code a while ago. Will get the full bloodwork in a couple weeks to see how much the var is impacting metabolic panel markers and see how much worse my HDL gets...
No when I’m on Dr prescribed stuff I’m strictly cruising. My free test on 140 mg/wk of prescription stuff is 422 pg/mL. My blast of 420 mg/wk of DC Pharma test Cyp is 713 pg/mL. I don’t convert much E2, therefore, have a good bit of free always floating around.
I saw a log a guy did with winny. The winny dropped his SHBG so low that his total test was half of what it was without winny. His free test was the same. I have not been able to find that log again in quite awhile.
That’s interesting. SHBG theoretically should have zero impact on total test. Low SHBG would allow more of the test in your system to be unbound thus driving up your free test concentration.
Yea the winny thing he mentioned above is strange but yea unbound would allow faster clearance in my opinion. And I agree 1300 isn't trt regardless if trough or peak. I've seen this way too many times
This is true. My question though is why does the doc have you on 140mg total weekly for TRT if your trough total test numbers are 1300? That puts you well above normal on average.
Hah…he has me on 200 mg/wk which puts me at ~1800 total. I self titrated down to 140mg because at that number all of my other health markers in CBC, metabolic panel, blood pressure are all perfect (100s/60s rhr 53). If I can be at 1300 total with everything in the reference ranges and good BP then I’ll happily stick with that. In my mind, the goal for TRT is getting total/free as high as possible before you get any negative effects. Just my opinion though.
At 140 all your markets are in range? That’s good, without a doubt, but chances are over time eventually hgb/hct are going to creep up. Same with blood pressure. Not definitely, just possibly. That doc isn’t doing his job is all. The goal for TRT is to improve symptoms of hypogonadism. And decrease morbidity. Not to increase the dose to the highest possible point until side effects arise.. lol.
Oh not knowledgeable without a doubt. But it’s very hard to find a doc who is. So when you find one willing to prescribe when you aren’t technically under the range required for insurance you run with them. Was I in the 200s? No, I was low 400s but he accused me of previous AAS use due to extremely atrophied testicles. Had never touched anything other than creatine prior. I was at 140mg for 2 years before trying my first ever “cycle”. Everything stayed exactly the same for my markers in that time. No statistical trending upwards. If they had I would have lowered. I also get EKGs and chest x-rays yearly. So I’m not just going off blood work markers.
Don’t disagree with anything you’re saying though. It’s just how I’ve decided to run my protocol, and I’m not suggesting others do the same. Especially now that I’ve gone off the deep end with blasting cycle(s). Clearly I’m not just a TRT patient anymore.
Yeah dude. I'm no expert on hormones. But I do read a lot. Lol A low SHBG will allow the test to clear faster. I put a link under DeeMan that is pretty interesting. I've never ordered from DC, so I'm not defending anyone or anything.
If you’re the smartest person in the room, then you’re in the wrong room. I read a lot as well, but does not mean I know everything. Always good to learn something new. Thanks for the info/link and productive dialogue.
Once again, I’m not bashing DC. The results were just not what I expected. I’d still order from him again when I need more stuff.
I'm definitely not the smartest person in the room. Lol I would try an experiment with your prescribed trt by adding var and tbol or try DC's without var and tbol. It would definitely benefit this forum.
Out of curiosity are you trying to see how bloods stabilize on this or something else. Reason I ask is was running a trt @200mg weekly and tbol @40mg and it crashed my e2 bad. Went to 500 test it was amazing.
I had seen a log of a guy a year ago or so where he took winny to lower his SHBG. The winny lowered his SHBG in to the single digits. His total testosterone was half of what it was without winny on the same exogenous dosage. His free testosterone was pretty much the same(within a few points). I wouldn't mind seeing that experiment repeated.
I posted this in a reply to DeeMan. It moved to page 2. "First pass metabolism of orally administered oxandrolone may decrease hepatic synthesis of SHBG, allowing exogenously supplied testosterone to be excreted." This was from a study on men with AIDS. Should have the same effect on non AIDS men. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17961146/#:~:text=First%20pass%20metabol...
I just don't see that out in the real world here. Boatloads of people taking these orals with sky high levels of total test. That study is more of an anomoly than the norm.
A candle or coffee cup warmer works well too. I consistently use it with all my gear just for some nicer pinning
Search bar. Plenty of info here on resuspending gear. NPP is notorious for crashing. Very simple to fix. Pro tip- check under the stopper for crystals. They'll hide up in there and immediately bind w/the rest of the solution and cause it to re-crystalize.
Just use a heating pad or stove top on low no need to vent.
Just placed an order. Been ordering from Tom for a long time, his product is always good to me. The aromasin has always been top notch. The cockbombs have my girlfriend REQUESTING to pay for them. Good thing its 50% off, hard to beat these promos and prices.
Toms communication has alwyas been top notch too, throughout all of it. Looking forward to trying the EQ, Toms products always make a good cycle.
Why thank you Thomas the tank, I knew you was the little engine that could.
Pack landed. About a week. Thanks! Just giving everyone a heads up
I’ll post a review with pictures of blood work later when I have time. But I have ordered 6 vials DHB, 5 vials NPP, 6 vials Test C, 120 var, 120 tbol, aromasin, and HCG from DC Pharma. I say this to say I’ve spent some money there. My total test and sensitive E2 on 140mg of my Dr prescribed test C is ~1300 and 30, respectively. My cycle of 420mg of test has me at 1787 and 60 after 10 weeks, respectively. Neither of these I’m taking an AI. I do daily injections and doing it that way I’ve never had to use an AI. I do bloods 4-5x a year and every time it’s in the morning before my next daily injection. I’m not claiming it’s bunk. I’m just saying one would think total test would increase more than 400-500 from a 3x increase in test dosage.
Edit. I do also want to say I’ve never had but positive results ordering from DC Pharma. They respond to emails. The TAT from order to my door has always been less than 10 days. Packaging is good. This is over 4 orders.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/500mg-test-c-dcpharma
https://www.eroids.com/pics/dc-pharma-bloodwork-14-weeks-into-cycle
https://www.eroids.com/pics/trt-progress-hgh-test-much-more
Still same batch of test e and c. I am about to have to re up as it’s starting to run out. But here are bloods with test c and test e if this helps you out.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/dc-test-c-200mg test c one at 150 per week from notable member.
Odd boss that yours came out lower than everyone else’s… I don’t have the answers unfortunately :/
Yea. Hormones can be tricky. I have plenty of other vials to keep testing. I posted a review with a pic of the bloodwork for the total/free/E2 on it just now as promised.
Edit: https://www.eroids.com/pics/dc-pharma-test-c-dhb-and-anavar
There's the link to my full blood work. No metabolic panel on these, because I had this ordered off a discount code a while ago. Will get the full bloodwork in a couple weeks to see how much the var is impacting metabolic panel markers and see how much worse my HDL gets...
Have you ever done var and tbol with Dr. prescribed trt?
No when I’m on Dr prescribed stuff I’m strictly cruising. My free test on 140 mg/wk of prescription stuff is 422 pg/mL. My blast of 420 mg/wk of DC Pharma test Cyp is 713 pg/mL. I don’t convert much E2, therefore, have a good bit of free always floating around.
Scoobydoobydoo I see you! So those would increase his free test score
I saw a log a guy did with winny. The winny dropped his SHBG so low that his total test was half of what it was without winny. His free test was the same. I have not been able to find that log again in quite awhile.
That’s interesting. SHBG theoretically should have zero impact on total test. Low SHBG would allow more of the test in your system to be unbound thus driving up your free test concentration.
Yea the winny thing he mentioned above is strange but yea unbound would allow faster clearance in my opinion. And I agree 1300 isn't trt regardless if trough or peak. I've seen this way too many times
This is true. My question though is why does the doc have you on 140mg total weekly for TRT if your trough total test numbers are 1300? That puts you well above normal on average.
Hah…he has me on 200 mg/wk which puts me at ~1800 total. I self titrated down to 140mg because at that number all of my other health markers in CBC, metabolic panel, blood pressure are all perfect (100s/60s rhr 53). If I can be at 1300 total with everything in the reference ranges and good BP then I’ll happily stick with that. In my mind, the goal for TRT is getting total/free as high as possible before you get any negative effects. Just my opinion though.
Could probably back down to 800- 900 and feel just as good with markers being a little more stable
At 140 all your markets are in range? That’s good, without a doubt, but chances are over time eventually hgb/hct are going to creep up. Same with blood pressure. Not definitely, just possibly. That doc isn’t doing his job is all. The goal for TRT is to improve symptoms of hypogonadism. And decrease morbidity. Not to increase the dose to the highest possible point until side effects arise.. lol.
Oh not knowledgeable without a doubt. But it’s very hard to find a doc who is. So when you find one willing to prescribe when you aren’t technically under the range required for insurance you run with them. Was I in the 200s? No, I was low 400s but he accused me of previous AAS use due to extremely atrophied testicles. Had never touched anything other than creatine prior. I was at 140mg for 2 years before trying my first ever “cycle”. Everything stayed exactly the same for my markers in that time. No statistical trending upwards. If they had I would have lowered. I also get EKGs and chest x-rays yearly. So I’m not just going off blood work markers.
Don’t disagree with anything you’re saying though. It’s just how I’ve decided to run my protocol, and I’m not suggesting others do the same. Especially now that I’ve gone off the deep end with blasting cycle(s). Clearly I’m not just a TRT patient anymore.
Glad you’re educated enough to keep an eye on all the important things! If you have any questions in the future send me a PM.
Yeah dude. I'm no expert on hormones. But I do read a lot. Lol A low SHBG will allow the test to clear faster. I put a link under DeeMan that is pretty interesting. I've never ordered from DC, so I'm not defending anyone or anything.
If you’re the smartest person in the room, then you’re in the wrong room. I read a lot as well, but does not mean I know everything. Always good to learn something new. Thanks for the info/link and productive dialogue.
Once again, I’m not bashing DC. The results were just not what I expected. I’d still order from him again when I need more stuff.
I'm definitely not the smartest person in the room. Lol I would try an experiment with your prescribed trt by adding var and tbol or try DC's without var and tbol. It would definitely benefit this forum.
Out of curiosity are you trying to see how bloods stabilize on this or something else. Reason I ask is was running a trt @200mg weekly and tbol @40mg and it crashed my e2 bad. Went to 500 test it was amazing.
I had seen a log of a guy a year ago or so where he took winny to lower his SHBG. The winny lowered his SHBG in to the single digits. His total testosterone was half of what it was without winny on the same exogenous dosage. His free testosterone was pretty much the same(within a few points). I wouldn't mind seeing that experiment repeated.
Winni ,var, Tbol will significantly lower SHBG much the same way as provi but never heard of it lowering total test values.
I posted this in a reply to DeeMan. It moved to page 2. "First pass metabolism of orally administered oxandrolone may decrease hepatic synthesis of SHBG, allowing exogenously supplied testosterone to be excreted." This was from a study on men with AIDS. Should have the same effect on non AIDS men. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17961146/#:~:text=First%20pass%20metabol...
I just don't see that out in the real world here. Boatloads of people taking these orals with sky high levels of total test. That study is more of an anomoly than the norm.