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Please don't think I'm referring to naps or any of their products in my "rant". It's simply a larger point for every product discussed here in eroids.
There's nothing wrong in saying your opinion, but it doesn't further the cause or eroids. Tests do. It's the only way to really quantify products.
I take the exact same dose and brand for my TRT and have for years. One week I'm strong as hell, another I struggle. One week I have a pimple or two on my shoulders, then I'm clear for 3-4 weeks. That's just me. That helps no one make a decision. It could be very misleading if people thought my gear was underdosed the week I felt weak.
Again, just want people to go by greater "facts". It's what makes eroids great.
Very well said
bigmurphAgreed facts not bioscience or feeling works but isn't proven you can feel that there are ghosts haunting your place maybe but I want proof.
Of course tho even a pharma brand can be off here and there, say the inspector is having a bad week an he gets lax or just doesn't care and lets some slightly underdosed test out but all in all its the same thing your saying no one really knows without bloods or mass specs
bigmurphIts funny you bring this up look at the test annabolic lab did on a very large pharma grade test. You will see it came back underdosed I did research they are only required to be like 20% close to the claim of whats in that amp crazy
Yes I seen that and I was going to bring that up if it went further but yeah any pharma stuff can be underdosed too, sometimes I think we vet better stuff from our src's than pharma bc its their business if its underdosed so they make sure its right or even overdosed.
bigmurphI agree and was blown away when I saw that test because its my brand. I couldn't believe that there allowed to underdose and still pass quality control. Even by 20% that's damn near 1/4 of what the label says. It really opened my eyes.
If you do read the panthlet that it comes with it says that there is only 180mgs of test available i don't fully understand this but it makes you think.
Ohh it might be minus the ester weight. But yeah thats what I was trying to bring up to dude bc he was using his trt gear as a basis but you can't even dobthat bc they get underdosed just the same, some ugls have a more consistent mg per mg basis than big pharma
And he is using it for trt purposes so actually the test with >1500 total test and free test is only $29 bucks good at any lab Corp.... when I said $79 that'd be for <1500 like a cycle. So labs are really to cheap to not get if available in your area. Especially when the source will credit you for your labs and replace your test. But unfortunately he already started a different brand.
RustyhookerYup. Post bloods. That's proof that gets pos karma. Every day someone "feels" this or that and bloods show different.
If it's crap....bloods are the only way to force the source to correct it. All I see on this page is late packs and nuthugger boosting the next promo. How bout the source fixed what's wrong?
Just cause I don't have alot of credit here dosent mean nothing.i have been working out almost 25 years..and I'm a very honest person.anyone can take it with a grain of salt,just sharing my experience with this batch....thanks,and thank you naps.it was fun while it lasted.
See my post above.
Feel doesn't mean shit. This is about all members and helping them out. Bloods are the bare minimum to state that things are off. Otherwise we're all just guessing.
I disagree. We let guys report by feel all the time when gear is good. We let guys report by feel on every other steroid except for test, EVERY OTHER STEROID is not supported by bloods.
I recently complained about weak Viagra, cialis, caber, and proviron.... all by feel.
Sure, his comments would carry more weight if he had bloods, that goes for good reviews too.
But to say he has to get bloods or shut up is just out of line.
Seriously!?! Please show me where I told anyone to shut up...
You can state whatever you like, but it doesn't help anyone if it doesn't have some proof to back it up. Not sure why that is such a difficult concept or why it's getting people's panties in a wad.
I'm also surprised this is coming from you, a person who's preached bloods since day one here.
that was in regard to Rusty's post about bloods or it never happened. and that we have some rule about it.
I am all about bloods, but I felt like this guy was getting his comments shut down.
We go by sides on every other compound, I'm saying that even without bloods a persons experience can still carry some weight.
It's a start, but that's it. I'm talking big picture for members here.
One guys says I think this test is underdosed because of no acne, strength, etc., how does that help me order? Peoples response to things can vary from shot to shot. I feel very differnt have have differnt sides on my trt from week to week. I use the same gear all the time. How does that help anyone in the long run.
Again, people can share their experiences and that's fine, but it helps no one if there isn't some proof.
Your opinion holds credibility because of all your bloods. That's my point my friend.
Never said nothing about feel...the side effects is what I was stating man.moving right along!!!
Sides aren't proof either.
This isn't personal, so stop there. This is about the community. I've been around longer than you and know plenty, but it doesn't mean shit without some proof. If you come on ANY SI and state things are up, that's great, but it needs it be backed up with some tangible proof. Otherwise it's useless.
Not sure what that's upsetting to you or anyone else.
I'm not upset...I'm just stating my experience..but for future records I'll just keep to myself..no worries.
This wasn't person. Your comment was basically used to make a point.
If you choose to take your gear and go home and pout, that's up to you. I've got no problem with you or your original post. Trying to help the community as always. Best of luck.
Pouting...wow..really.i could care less like I stated..far from pouting.i have other gear and to much good gear is hear within...like I said I was just sharing..
If someone wants to test the gear I'll send it to ya...it is really underdosed.ill bet my life on it...who wants it?
Test is the one thing we can check with blood work.
Labsmd.com
Isn't there someway to just check the gear itself?I seen something on another page.its actually my avatar.
I like http://www.discountedlabs.com
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Wish I could post bloods right now..been doing this since I was 28,i know when something is good or not..I'm just sharing with you guys here..I haven't contacted them and I'm not.to many suppliers here within to have to worry about customs and the wait..this isn't like it was 10 years ago...I'm done with them and with this subject.a and they no what's up.if they want to correct that's fine.but
Ike I said I'm not sweating it nor will I contact them about it...good day.
I don't think so Rusty.
right....
But I can promise you it isn't very potent,regardless of bloods..been doing this way to long.its really,just underdosed..I have had bunches of this stuff and this is the first I have ever experienced this with them.i bet I won't be the first one to say this,just give a little time if it's anything like mine,it was also alot thinner than I have ever seen.