So zewi, cdaddy, GS9 here are my update pix i said i would post for you guys. First one is when i was in college when i was sprinting, swimming, and doing weights every single day or almost every day. I literally could not eat enough, weight then was 128-130. The second pic was of bout 3-4 weeks into my current cycle when i was kicking with med-labs drol, with weight hovering around 176 but now as my cycle is closing it is 184.5 this morning. As you can see ive gained some good size and i love how tall my traps are. Abs are not as flat because this last year i have focused only on strength and size gains, not cutting, shaping, or vascularity. Been doing minimal of abs 1-3 days a week but that just changed and hitting them every other day now. Gime your feed back and all other comments from other eroiders are welcome! And yes representing the gorillas with the tank!