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Another bad batch. I’m not blaming napsgear for this issue as this stems from Ultima so don’t give them hate. I will hopefully be able to resolve this with them behind the scenes. Just wanted to make anyone else aware who might have the same batch.

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Dereck Zulauf's picture

Well damn. 250 Ultima Cyp was the first cycle I ordered. And it was gonna be my introduction to roids. Got Batch O09879 the one marked on the website for bunk. Solution was completely crystal clear, like water, didnt smell anything which I thought was normal but sounds like people are saying there is usually a steroidy smell? I was gonna run 400 a week, I injected 100 mg yesterday before I saw the announcement on here. No infection, no bruising, no weird feelings. I am completely fine, so I think people who got batch 9879 and accidently used it will be good. Obviously not gonna take anymore since its bunk crap, but I think its just vitamin E as listed on Ultima website.

BigDdaddy's picture

Just received this response earlier from OS. How the hell does a big name company like Ultima not have a highly reputable supplier they can trust?!? Ultima dealing with suppliers that would do something like this is extremely alarming. I will absolutely NOT be using Ultima ever again! Vitamin E is NOTHING like Test. How the hell could they possibly have not noticed the difference? The very smell alone of Test E is unmistakable.

2026-02-28 09:24:33 By Angel
Hello, There is absolutely no need to worry, you are on the best hands in the industry. We'll make things right and replace all the batches that have quality concerns. Ultima informed us today that they have been scammed with fake documents and the factory provided Vitamin E for those batches with COA's of Test C and Test E. So inside the vials is MCT Oil and Vitamin E. The vials will be replaced and the new batches are currently under testing. Regarding the package, currently we've made an inquiry to the freight company and asked the exact status because there are many packages waiting to clear customs and hopefully this will happen in the coming days. We'll have to see what batch is being delivered and we'll act immediately. Thank you for your patience. Respectfully!

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TheOGof93's picture

They stated it was because they got raws from someone in a pinch when they were nowhere to be found and their main supplier was dry over the summer, and were provided a fake COA. While backed up they made the mistake of not double checking and verifying their product from the new source and took them at face value with the provided COA. While realizing what a fuck up that was, they have rectified the situation and have fully taken responsibility and shown the integrity to admit they fucked up. They could have blamed any other reason for it but they admitted they cut a corner once and it was a mistake that never should have been made. Mistakes happen, it's how they handle it that matters. Ultima has been a top brand and source for decades and 98% of their products batches can be matched to verified COA's. The one time in a pinch sources test e and c were the only products affected and not double checked. I think people are being way too harsh on a company that has been a very good and reliable company for this being a black market type of thing. I would say as far as UGL goes they are one of the top, and whoever made the choice should probably be fired, but the company itself doesn't deserve to have it's name tarnished especially after taking full accountability and making it right.

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BigDdaddy's picture

This is by no means the first or isolated incident from them. I do agree they have been around for decades. So for a decades old company to mistake Vitamin E for Test E "AND" C when those 2 raws are very much different from each other in look, smell and melting point is bullshit. I'm sorry brother, but those are the facts. If you've never dealt with raws I can see how it wouldn't make sense to you, but trust when I tell you that is a mistake that absolutely should never have been made. The ONLY excuse is if they are getting finished oils rather than raws in which case they 1000% should have tested it. ESPECIALLY if it's a random source in a pinch! You order from a random source that you have no reputation with in a pinch and do "ZERO" testing. Do you realize how many people could have been seriously hurt or killed in that decision? That's serious bro....thousands of people's health on the line taking such an ignorant chance. We have every single right to be highly upset and avoid them moving forward because again, like I said....this is not the first time or a decades long isolated incident by any means.

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Big Len.S's picture

Right on Brother, this is a worst case scenario that happened. No excuse and as for me I'll never buy their products again

TheOGof93's picture

I get what you're saying.. And I agree totally it should have never happened, they made a very big mistake, regardless of smell, color, etc they should have tested the raws and the finished products before labeling them and shipping them out. I 100% agree with you there. See and that's what I was under the impression that they were getting finished oils and they were just labeling and packaging them, I feel like that's the only way that mistake could happen if the smell is so much different, people who work with it everyday would notice immediately in the factory. So I was under the impression they were getting delivered vials pre filled, in which case as stated yes, they should have not only double tested the raws, said they got a COA on the raws that was bogus, so they should have tested the raws before they purchased them or hired this company to use them to make their products and and they should also be testing the end product. Random vials should be taken at different times of packaging and tested for potency and purity, absolutely. They cut a corner to either save money, or to try and make up for the backlog of orders they had when the raws were hard to find and they just took someone at face value which you can't do in todays day and age especially with millions in product and peoples health at risk, that I am with you on. I get being highly upset I really do, and I am not saying it's not serious. But I mean, Ultima has been a good company over the years they are not some of these dirtbag places that have constantly underdosed and ripped people off and done an exit scam and came back as another brand etc. They have credibility in my book, and while this immensely damaged that credibility I don't think that the 3rd party vendors should be being blamed or attacked, and I also think that they owned up to it, they could have made up any excuse but they said hey we didn't test it the new source, that's a big thing to admit, so I give them that, I just don't think they should be washed as a company completely because they made a mistake. Maybe I believe in second chances and shouldn't or maybe I believe that even the best of people and places fuck up. I don't know, I just felt like it seems kind of harsh. I mean we are in a black market UGL scenario, you can't expect the exact perfection you would as if they were FDA approved and regulated. I kind of expect there to be some fuck ups honestly. But trust me, I DO get why people are so upset, I do. I just feel like boycotting a company that has been for the most part a really great source, seems kind of fucked up.. Maybe I am wrong?.. I guess that's just how I see it. I guess I just believe they deserve the chance to make things right, and to put things in place so that can never happen again, and to prove that they are still able to be trusted.

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BigDdaddy's picture

Your a good man. I can tell by the way you speak and appreciate your words. This is a bad situation and tempers are high right now including my own because of the amount of horrible things I've seen from these brands aside from the Test Eand C. I think about all the people out there not on these boards living their day to day feeling horrible or getting sick and not knowing why. It's a really bad situation and I don't think I've ever seen a lab make so many mistakes and cause so much damage all at once. It's wild. We will wait and see what the future brings.

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NWApatches's picture

Folks been saying for years the shits trash

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TheOGof93's picture

Never have I heard that. Ultima products have always been quality.

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Autoprime12's picture

I just opened a ticket with PM because I also got this crap test. Hope they make it right.

Osgear's picture

All the sources will make it right because is free replacement by the manufacturer.

Autoprime12's picture

Yes sir. I sent a pic to PM and they already confirmed the order would be replaced. I really appreciate this board and the community here. Class acts.

Khandum's picture

I was gonna buy some ultima a few weeks back, I lucked out big time!

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Osgear's picture

Hello guys,

We've got the information from Ultima that inside the vials is MCT Oil, BA, BB and Vitamin E. So the factory that provided the raws practically scammed the manufacturer with a vitamin and provided a fake COA. There is NO RISK for you at all.

All the oils and batches are currently in testing process and this will delay the shipping of the pending orders. As we have already informed, the products will be replaced with new products that have the quality control pass.

Thank you.

BigDdaddy's picture

However, Ultima admitted they did not test the final product so to say it's perfectly safe on top of the fact they are dealing with a shady supplier is not a statement you can honesty make.

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DannyBannySchmanny's picture

except the BA and BB can cause sterile abscesses or granulomas, no risk at all? They're both irritants, they have risk.

BigDdaddy's picture

They're in every single injectable steroid brother and have been since the dawn of Arnold!

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UncleYoked's picture

BA/BB is in every injectable for all sources.

PimpdaddyJ's picture

That’s not really a good excuse from Ultima. They need to know what they are putting in a vial before they put it in there. If they are getting raws from some random source then they need to be testing it before they use it themselves

Osgear's picture

Ultima confirmed that this batch - MTO09779 - will be replaced also. The raws were from the same factory and produced in the same month. They will post an update soon.

trennythingspossible's picture

And what month exactly is that? So we can assume every Ultima product produced during that month is bad.

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Waltdisneysbum's picture

Any other batches they can tell us about produced with these raws before people test it themselves? Could save them a lot of money Smile

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Waltdisneysbum's picture

Oh dear

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russisua's picture

What was the date of that batch? June 15, 2025 (15/06/2025)?

NothingFancy's picture

The date for Batch MTOO9779 that I have has a Mfg date of 20/06/2025

russisua's picture

Fuck.....so not bad raws just one day. Not bad raws just 2 batches....bad raws for a while. This situation is escalating due to zero accountability. So their "apology" post on Ultimas site needs an update

press1's picture

Just looking at the Statement again it seems it already has been altered slightly in areas so its not quite as bad lol

Petecastiglione's picture

Lots of labs out there, no need to give them another chance.

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BigDdaddy's picture

Agreed....I'd avoid Nakon as well because they look a lot like Ultima and probly made by the same.

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Ceejay1220's picture

Beligas and Ultima are. I think Nakon is seperate.

Wildling's picture

Too many members are too cheap. There are many who only buy during promos and don’t think about actually investing in their body.

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Zee's picture

Sadly, they’ll probably rebrand and relabel after this and will be stocked again, or pushed though promos through the popular sources.

I am sticking to the same brands that have been consistent or repeatedly send their products for blind testing.

Osgear's picture

They will continue to produce under this brand and they will respect a strict quality control protocol.

Gainz92's picture

Damn they really sucks hopefully they take care of it for everybody!

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Goodfella1118's picture

Just curious had anyone tried this gear yet ? There’s a lot of test going around but there has to be someone who has used it ?

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press1's picture

Have a look on Benny's page atm mate - his bloods are up on it.

scoobydoo's picture

Damn, this is a different batch. Benny said he waited over 60 days before getting a blood test. Just think of all the guys that are suffering by now not knowing what the fuck is going on.

russisua's picture

Well the other problem is we have a June 15 date of them admitting bad raws. Then they swore up and down all raws after were just fine...and....from their normal supplier. So now their excuse is a lie too

press1's picture

I must admit when I've had bunk Test in the past after a day or 2 I can tell, mainly because its Prop so it shows up fast. But for others who aren't that aware of the signs or are new to the game - yeah its gonna be bad rollercoaster of feeling shitty, depressed and no energy or appetite. Most likely they will think steroids are completely shit and why did I bother Lol

Steeltoad777's picture

Ppl say you cant notice longer esters immediately but... im confident i can tell if a test c or e is dosed somewhat accurately. I can feel it in my work outs immediately. If my levels are depleted, im not getting through a work out with the same intensity. And ill usually get morning wood. Thats a great indicator

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press1's picture

TBH mate I can feel if Test E is crap within the first few hours too, once you know what good Well dosed Test feels like its an unmistakable feeling - I just couldn't be arsed with someone debating with me that its not possible to feel it that quickly LOL Been quite a few difficult wankers lately in the forums Lol

BigDdaddy's picture

I'm with you brother...I can tell as well. It's an acquired thing from experience.

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NothingFancy's picture

I have 5 vials with this batch number I ordered through another source that I have not used yet. Man, I hope this isn’t true.

Birdmanjack23's picture

Thanks for sharing this with us..

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Autoprime12's picture

That's not the only complaint. They are using shit gray plastic stoppers also.

frofrank's picture

I’m new to the game, all I’m used to is gray plastic stoppers what else is out there lol

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Tolisam32's picture

promo shills are late to defend this one whats going on r they capitulating

Osgear's picture

Again a vial that is not sealed: https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/109786-sample_1_XBRZ8UGJWT2w

In none of the lab reports is shown a single Ultima vial. This is starting to look strange. We don't know who test these vials and we don't know what is being tested.

russisua's picture

This is out of hand. And dangerous on all sorts of levels. We start getting all this fake shit and big brother finds out they will stick their dicks in the Kool Aid. Nobody wants that. All the resellers are obsessed with doing anything they can to shoot down any claims. So....their defense is multiple people are conspiring to send it fake test, to get over on them a few 100 dollars? Its like 160$ per test plus shipping. What retards are doing this effort for pennies? Thats a stretch. But a Lab.....that PUBLICLY admitted making bad batches with bad raws.....They by no means could have made more mistakes. Impossible! And we have to all take note, they waited and waited while people were injecting it amd said nothing. It really couldnt get much worse.