posted Tue, 01/08/2019 - 01:37
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+ 3 Trying to bulk.. Down to 106kg, trying to get 110+ again.
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Started yesterday to add 30 mg dbol + 100 mg anadrol a day
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Started yesterday to add 30 mg dbol + 100 mg anadrol a day
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Great look for the weight you are carrying man, well done. I would not rely on orals too much while trying to get the weight up, 2 weeks in you will be struggling to get that food in. These orals seem to be fairly toxic to the body and once it builds up, body starts fighting it and as a result it kills your appetite.
You seem to know what you’re doing but to me increasing calories would be the main factor.
Anyways + from me for an update picture man, well done
I noticed you said you had some lethargy and lack of appetite, just FYI those are all fairly common sides for oral steroid use because it’s so taxing on the liver.
If appetite is an issue mk677 or ghrp6 would be great ways to help.
If you do use the orals take your tudca. Also I’d carb load on the anadrol in the morning and pop the dbol pre workout to help dump glycogen IF you insist on combining them.
Good luck bro
Thank you Bro,
Is it possible that It comes from tren also?
I had these issues before starting the orals.
Thank you for the advices. Never tried mk677 or ghrp6 but will add it if possible to get my hands on it.
100% it probably is the tren. Just saying orals at this point will probably make it worse.
Try some tudca.
Tren is the only injectable that I’ve seen stress the liver. I think it has something to do with the training intensity combined with the drying effect and electrolyte manipulation, in addition to the toxicity of the drug itself, and the dramatically enhanced nitrogen retention (which should hit the kidneys more than the liver but I’m sure it doesn’t help).
I don’t have those issues but I’ve seen guys have trouble and generally any appetite problems are liver related. Always look there first. What’s your ast/alt? Recent bloods?
anadrol kills my appetite within a week, hope you don't get that issue from it
An extra 900mg of orals each week? Why not just bump up the food and not the gear?
I do both. I upped the calorie intake before adding the orals. Also I am not satisfied with my strength, hoping the orals can help with that.
RustyhookerRather than eat more you upped the orals? Why?
Youre large sized dude
I do both.
I rarely took any orals in my life, I think that's a way to add more size and strength which I did not fully explore yet.
I feel I am not as large as I could be and want to.
Hope that explains it in a understandable way.
Edit: One more reason was that I feel kind of tired, less motivated and got less hungry from the (I assume) tren.(even though I take caber) Someone told me that orals, especially dbol, helps with that and I wanted to try that.
The dose of the anadrol may be exaggerated I admit.
May be placebo but after short time already I indeed feel a mood enhancement and more motivation to do things.
Pick either dbol or Anadrol, don’t run both, or let me rephrase that, don’t run both at those doses. If it’s your first time with orals your going way to heavy. I suggest running dbol 50mg a day or Anadrol 50mg a day, or if you want to run both, run 25mg of each a day. 100mg if Anadrol a day is way to much for your first time, Hell its a lot for anyone really. You don’t want those sides trust me. Good luck brother, let us know when you end up doing. And just remember, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Hey man, everything you wrote is right and generally a good advice for everyone who reads it. Props for that.
Sorry If I didn't wrote it good enough, I rarely took orals but it is not the first time. In the past I ran anadrol at 50 and 100 mg, dbol at 50, superdrol at 40 if I remember correctly and anavar. (not all together, always separately) but every oral I mentioned I only ran once or twice in my whole time with AAS.
Edit: forgot that I once took winstrol for supporting a diet (long ago) which for me brought the worst side effects of all the orals I mentioned. I remember that I had the urge to puke after every set, which was the reason I stopped it. Ofc I cannot exactly pin down if it came from the winny or if something was wrong with my stomach in general. Just remembering my experiences.
Right on. Honestly, your fucking huge dude, I would kill for your traps. And your pretty lean as well, so props. 100mg of drol and 30mg of dbol is more then likely going to put a lot of water weight on you. Yes, you will gain weight fast and get larger, but all that nitrogen retention and water weight will leave you short after you stop. For me dbol gives me a great euphoria feeling, just happy spirits ect.. but it also gives me moon face, no matter what I eat. With drol I can run 50mg ed and stay lean and I get huge. I also pulse drol 2 weeks on 2 weeks off for a total of 8 weeks. For example, say I gain 12lbs on drol after 8 weeks, within a week after my last drol dose, I would say a good 4lbs of that 12 I gain will be gone. With dbol if I gained 12lbs in 8 weeks, I’m going to lose prolly 6-8lbs of it once I get off. That’s just my personal opinion, everyone is different. Drol gives some insaine pumps in the gym btw. Just be aware headaches are common. I take a lot of ibuprofen.
First of all thank you for commenting and sharing your experience, I always try to learn new things and want to hear how other people do it.
Would you say that the tren is able to keep the water weight a bit down? I heard that drol and tren can work synergistic. We are talking about 700-800mg tren ace a week.
Good to hear that the dbol gives you this kind of good feeling. Im hoping to get that too and hope that 30 mg will be enough. I do not want to up the dbol since I tend to get gyno from it and don't want to throw in another medication to counter that.
I know I should get the glands removed, its not that easy in my country though.
Yw bud. Beard hit the nail on the head above if you do decide to run both at lower doses. Tren kills my appetite. Plus I have a hard time sleeping, thus not good for muscle growing. I always run tren for a cutter personally. Now deca and Anadrol, shoot, for pure gains, that’s the money spot. I like NPP vs deca as well. Keep us posted.