+ 17 The beard bleeds
So I pulled these for a few reasons:
1) to check igf difference between split and single dosing 6 iu. Single dose gave an igf exactly 100 pts higher.
2) for the ug freak promo on "underdosed" test. I pinned .2cc 3x week for approx 200 mg a week on cruise, as you can see this test may even be overdosed. I'm sorry for the capped test I didn't think I'd need uncapped on 200 mg
3) to try and find why I'm still getting back acne months after my last blast. I checked prolactin, progesterone, estrogen and test. My estrogen looks like the most likely culprit although this jacked up cruise I've been on I'm sure isn't helping. I'm using 12 mg DP aro twice a week. I'll be doubling it.
Acne tips and tricks would be appreciated. I don't want to run accutane and I'm currently using nizoral and a topical spray with the same stuff nizoral has in it.
4) for health, my liver values are always right around 40, cholesterol should respond to getting my diet in check. I'll probably run some niacin as well and retest in 8 weeks.
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I do have a cholesterol question?
I am prone to my numbers being higher normally.
What supplement raises the least in your opinion?
RustyhookerGoing above the cap on a cruise is called a cycle. It'll tweak on your body systems.
liver, cholesterol and estro need immediate attn
Cholesterol: hdl is almost back to range. LDL had been as high as 180 at the end of my last blast and is returning to normal. I suspect another 2-6 months of PROPER cruising on 100 mg a week of test cyp should resolve lipids completely. I've also added 3 grams daily of niacin (not extended release) to speed things along.
Liver: I've always been between 50-59 for both alt and ast since I started bodybuilding ten years ago. My doctor has asked about it but when he saw that it's consistent there and not rising he told me not to worry and it was probably due to the weightlifting.
Estro: couldn't agree more. This dr*gon pharma aromasin was not cutting it and I've since switched and will be checking levels again.
From now on I'll be cruising on 100 mg/wk of properly dosed test cyp.
There is a lot in there isn't there
RustyhookerMight be an eye opener. Lol
Might be your thyroid fella
Levels look a little fucked up to me
I hadn't thought of that, can you go into a little more detail? Experience with thyroid issues?
Well I'm seeing you have lowish tsh (bottom quarter) and you'd expect an inverse relationship with t4 (top quarter approx)
But t4 and free t4 are both at the lower end
T3 is missing and that's where the rubber meets the road so you need that checked.
Low t4/T3 and low tsh indicates a pituitary issue but as your taking exog test it is likely the cause. If you are TRT you definitely need to explore but if not it would probably reverse off cycle but still when on cycle the disruption to thyroid may cause other issues like acne (or maybe nothing at all)
Yeah I'm learning about it as I suspect I have the reverse... on cycle mask's either a thyroid or adrenal issue so learning as I go. There is huge discrepancy out there around normal levels versus optimal for any individual so it's important you find someone in the know if you plan to explore it.
I'd suggest you talk to Jaygainz ask him his thoughts.
I'd also be inclined to get ft3 and rt3 and antibodies tested too though and take to a doc that knows about ranges and latest thoughts on them
Thank you very much for shedding some light on this. I'll be adding additional thyroid tests into my next panel to see if I can get to the bottom of it. I am on doc prescribed trt for the past two years.
If you do a little Google action on: TRT AND thyroid
You will get lots of conflicting info but some good stuff from the USA and UK thyroid associations will be valuable
I find the best balanced info comes from holistic doctors that specialise but either way just bear in mind that your 'normal' will be different than everyone else's!
Best of luck bro
My two cents for acne:
Check out topical, OTC adapalene cream (brand name Differin). Can even buy it off Amazon. It was prescription only until 2016, and is pretty much the newest acne medicine overall. Kinda like accutane in a cream form so it doesn't have all the liver/reproductive/mucous membrane side effects.
Hate to be a big pharma shill, but that stuff saved me after I realized what accutane was doing to my body. Took a little over a month of applying it, but now I'm free from that damn cystic acne except for a few scars.
Is that something that you have to use forever? Not that it would stop me but I've been on doxy for like 8 months and I'm sure that's not good. It's not bad enough for accutane (although doc Offered it to me) I don't think but I've had acne since I was 12.
They said it would go away when I got older. I'll be 33 next month... still waiting lol
That's very helpful, I'll look into it!
Great info. Thanks for posting. Niacin and red yeast rice cleaned up my cholesterol great; My values were like yours. Milk thistle and Liv 52 lowered my liver values.
Appreciate the input brother, I'll look into those
Nice bro this was interesting because I always went back and forth about the split dose or single dose thing. I had to get to the bottom of that debate myself and found out that my body also has a little higher igf from single dose. Test level looks good too. +1 for bloods
Thanks brother
Titsonmyman69Do you do your single dose in the morning or night?
Fasted in the morning and I wait an hour to eat breakfast.
Have said it many times , if not on slin single gh bolus injection is the way to go
Im same , 440 igf on 6 iu split , 565 igf on 6 iu single dose ... both results same gh , same kit
Thanks for testing
Respect
Dope
Thanks for the bloods +1
Here's an excellent write-up by brother Mack that I think will help with your estrogen issue.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/aromasin-you...
Wow, a big thanks to mac for writing that and you for leading me to it. I'll start with 12 mg every day then and pull bloods soon.
I'm All about that single dose +1
With such an investment you really want to get the most for your money. The sides also went from nonexistent to my right hand falling asleep all the fucking time.
Thanks bro