posted Sun, 01/19/2025 - 11:27
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+ 3 test results from 500mg a week.
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This was my first blast. I had blood drawn in September of 2024 around week 8 or 9 in the blast, but I can't remember the exact timing. A month later, I tested another source at the same dosage, and the results were similar to the previous numbers. Now, I'm wondering if I should increase my dosage to 750 mg for the next blast since my numbers are somewhat low, or if I should stick to 500 mg.
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What score were you looking for on that 500mg dose I don't know but it seems low to me but I don't know what the average range is for 500 test.
I was hoping for 3k.
Nice Free T. Circulating active test is very important - relative to conversion via aromatase, 5-a reductase enzyme, and deactivation via SHBG.
The reason we see people with a dialed estrogen conversion channel (clean eating and adjusted AI), SHBG reducing compounds included (10mg proviron ED), and proper prostate health make such great gains with just 300mg of testosterone per week.
What's your plan for lowering the Estrogen?
I think some Aromasin 25mg would do him well here.
Primo will be a lot better imo
What's your definition of "blast"? Are you adding to TRT or running an actual cycle?
blast was 500mg testosterone. then threw in some anavar at week 12 30mg a day but stopped after 2 weeks with the anavar cause i had some hair shedding. I'm on 160mg a week now.
Curious… did you just say fuck your natural production or do you have underlying issues? What were your natural levels?
What’s your full history on use? I want to know what all you have been on as that may be an indicator… also lengths between “trt” and cycles.
How are you pinning? (Location? Pin length?)
I agree with someone below that you hit a valley on your levels…
my natural test level was 290 at 30. i tried to get trt through the VA but they want you below 200. i pin my vastus lateralis every 3.5 days. needle is 1 inch.i started the blast in July i . ran the blast for 18 weeks. been crusing since then. i have never done test or steroids. this is the first time for me. i plan on doing 500mg maybe 750mg test at the end of April/beginning of May.
Ahh someone else who deals with VA bull I see
You stated you were taking anavar. On a source page you said you were taking aromasin. Any other orals?
I don’t think your levels are far off if you are testing at the down turn. Another source had you around 2200 ng/dl. If you want to add more test, go for it… I would just bump to 600mg.
If you plan on being TRT the remainder of your life and don’t want kids, I would stick to 10-12 week runs of Test P while staying consistent with your TRT dose. I don’t mine pinning every other day though. TP 75mg EOD with TC/TE 75mg every other pin would be fun.
those were the only orals that i ran. anavar is prolly the only oral i will run beside aromasin to control e2. i take finasteride as well to help keep my hair as well.
How much anavar were you taking? Why are you taking aromasin? The finasteride is a DHT inhibitor which explains the free test. How much are you taking of those? I feel like I am peeling an onion right now.
i took aromasin once a week at 12.5mg on blast to help with high e2. i take 1mg of fin a day. i took around 30mg a day of anavar but stopped after 2 weeks. started around week 12 with the anavar. I'm not taking aromasin now since i have no need for it.
So you took the finasteride starting day one?
I’m thinking you peaked later in your cycle. You should try a short Esther to really see what your body tells you. Would have been great to see your levels the last week of your cycle. 2200 is a good spot for growth.
Get your SHBG checked. Bet it’s crashed. Your body will metabolize the test out of your system lightning fast with extremely low SHBG. Causing low numbers like this especially with less frequent dosing. Upping the shot frequency can help mitigate the problem. Not because it’ll drastically bump up your SHBG, but because you’re constantly putting new test in the system that’s constantly clearing it out. SHBG acts like a reservoir and a shuttle.
There’s something else weird going on.
Yeah possibly
you think every 3.5 days not enough? i might try the MWF approach then next blast.
Lol....you need to look up cry havok on here. This trough talk is funny is you research. Your body converts high or youre using sub par testosterone.
Theres going to be a decrease…. It won’t be 300-500 ng/dl though. He was using another source when his levels were closer to 2200 ng/dl.
i used pureanabolics and os gear nakon. both was similar test levels, nakon was a little higher at 2100
13% difference is not a little. Just take 750mg a week… fuck it. Sounds like you already made your mind up.
I'm more than likely to do 500 mg a week. Androgen receptors increase when you take testosterone, I should theoretically have slightly higher total and free testosterone at saturation compared to the last blast. The Anavar probably helped me reach 2146 on the second source since it lowers SHBG which frees up testosterone.
Two weeks of Anavar won’t do shit. My suggestion is to take half a year off while staying on a TRT dose. Just call it a cycle and bump to 500-600mg test for 14-16 weeks. Throw in some dbol up front, end with some winstrol at the tail end if you don’t drink alcohol. I don’t suggest taking EQ which is what I saw you inquiring about elsewhere. If anything, NPP is a good starter if you are comfortable. I still suggest a couple orals to key some things in.
yea, I'm doing time on time off. By the time i blast again, it should be pretty close to 6 months. I probably wont do d-bol or winny though. i wish i could do primo but I'm afraid of it raping my hair :'(. I was looking into EQ since it seems hair safe but, i have read conflicting stuff about it since it may or may not cause kidney damage.
Why not dbol or winstrol? What are your goals? Post up so we can see where you are starting from.
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Damn.. have you tried test p? Or maybe sust? I’d be curious to see what your levels would come out to on one of those.
I agree but I've seen this type of thing before with a few members. One member didn't have any abnormal issues on bloods. He just happen to not put up good numbers on test score. He just happen to be metabolizing way to fast and I don't think he found out the underlying issues for that. I'll have to double check with him.
you think i should test after pinning to see what peak is then test again at trough? i guess that would shed some light in how fast i metabolize test out of my system.
That would kinda give u a better understanding of how fast but just gotta find out the root cause.
Thats not at all good numbers for 500mg
do you think increasing dose to 750mg a week would be beneficial?
Yes. Bump it up and get that estro towards 50.
BysandtrysYea that is an interesting total for 500mg..
For myself I got up to 3.6k total with 560mg a week.
Have you tried using different esters like Test E to see if youd get a better response?
i tried both esters. this one was TEST E, i tried another source and different ester TEST C and tested about 200 higher. i did take anavar though so maybe it freed up some shbg to get me 200 higher.
BysandtrysHow about pinning frequency/schedule?
I was doing daily with slin pin which usually nets the most stable levels.
was pinning every3.5 days. i took the blood test around 3pm 2 hours before next pin. pin on Mondays at 5pm and Friday morning at 5am.
BysandtrysOkay so you're basically at a trough when you tested..
You're levels might actually be somewhere between 2-3k.
In any case, I think its better to judge your response based off gym progress than total blood levels.
Sheesh.....
I'm curious who the other source was. Like if it was a big brand name and was that low i get your thought of being bad responder. If it's some other domestic source though...
But thanks for posting.
the other source was os gear. nakon test c.
Oh yeah Def nothing wrong with that gear.
That's interesting though. Huh.. i wouldn't know where to begin giving advice with what u got going on. So I'm not even gonna act i would. Lol.
Hope u figure it out tho bro
ill prolly just up the dose tbh. i still had decent gains though. next blast 750mg a week with 6-8ius of hgh.
Week that makes sense cuz. Your body is what it is. So even though it only puts u at that number. It's still 500mg. So you have to be easy up compared to where u were. You'd figure. Did u check before u started the gear?
my testosterone was 290 before hoping on, i was trying to get trt at the VA, but they want you below 200. so i decided to do my own thing lol.
I hear u. Lol.
As long as ufell better guess that's all that matters right
Nah I don't think there's anything wrong with those 2 vials. More than likely that's just your response to 500mg dose. Another guy may score 3000 or more. We all are different But accurate dosing always helps
thats is what i was thinking. tried 2 different esters and was pretty similar. I'm assuming I'm not the best responder to test. now for HGH though i think i am a super responder. i had a igf of 476 on 3ius.