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  • Fishmuscle   •   Wed, Sep 12th, '18 14:57   •   26 replies, 970 views

NOTE: Simple Mass Spectrometry is not enough to determine dosage and purity of tested substance.
Tests done with GC/MS, LC/MS/MS or HPLC methodes are considered much more reliable!

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16 weeks
Test E 300mg a week (king)
EQ 600mg a week ( biopharm)

Test P 150 a week (gaintrain)

Looking for some feedback/help I've been dealing with some libido issues for several weeks on this cycle. Decided to get bloods done for the first time. These are my results. I'm at about 16 weeks on this cycle. Did run Anavar the first 6 weeks or so and just added it back in along with a small amount of prop 2 weeks before this test. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, Thanks!

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  • Clayton8902's picture
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  • Clayton8902
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Just seeing the estradiol @ 8 means your ai is being dosed a bit heavy. Your test levels are fine but you need the estro to get it up! D is spot on with the EQ metabolite converting to an ai. Donate some damn blood while youre at it+1

Edit: on second thought i believe another member here recently was using TNE which skyrocketed his estradiol. Not saying you could try it but you could try it. Im sure itd convert much quicker than the prop would but im just throwing an idea. I crashed my e2 a couple of times by over dosing my ai and felt like absolute garbage. My solution was a bit different though as instead of tne i did a mini burst of dbol since it converts to a more potent form of estrogen. After about 2 days @ 50mgs split dosed with no ai i started feeling much better. This is anecdotal only and what my result was. Hope it clears up soon!

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  • DfromPhilly
  • 2 years ago

I had to drop all AI's and up my test to 420/wk when running EQ at 630. It has an AI metabolite that effects some more than most. You must be in my boat. Drop the AI and keep the prop going. You'll be better inside of a week. + for testing. Kings test E looks like it's on point.

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That's interesting hadn't ever heard of that with EQ but good to know. I plan on keeping the prop going for a bit. Thanks for the info D. Kings test E is great and he's a good dude.

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  • fusebox
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Ai all over the place is not the way to go first off like mak said. Drop the Aro for the time being. Up the prop for a couple weeks and retest. +2 for bloods.

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  • Geo
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You must be feeling like shit.. +2 for testing

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  • heavymetalmonsterD
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Your estrogen is crashed bro.. That's your issue...+1 for bloods

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  • Armwrestlingfiend
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  • Makwa
  • 2 years ago

Yeah, easy call here. Crashed estro.
Gains killer also.

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  • Rustyhooker
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Crashed estro....bad bad. Get that platelet count fixed before you die!!!

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Need some education;how did he get high platelet?

  • Bearded_muscle's picture
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EQ will increase it. Also if he’s been regularly donating double red cells then they filter it and give the platelets back to you. I found that out after donating double reds for a while and when I pulled bloods everything was on point but my platelets were way high. Lesson learned. I think I was on EQ at the time as well come to think of it.

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Thank you! Yes, gear increases them but some seem to do it at a higher rate. Signals to the kidneys...signals to marrow after...

I should get a forum together on varied pathways

  • Bearded_muscle's picture
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That would be very helpful, not just what happens but why

  • Dobermann's picture
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I see i see,makes sence;)thank you i learned something new;)

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Thanks Rusty. This weekend will be the 3rd time donating while on this cycle.

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  • ryansolo
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How are you dosing the aromasin?

  • Fishmuscle's picture
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I've honestly been all over the place with my dose trying to figure this stuff out by feel and without bloods has been a nightmare, lesson learned.

As high as 25mg ed and as low as 6mg e3d

Any feed back on how long to lay off the AI before retesting?

  • Makwa's picture
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Going all over the place with AI is not the way to do it. To late to figure out optimum AI dose for this cycle so get it right next time. Next cycle keep this in mind to help dial things in.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-cycle-when-to-take-ai

You are probably coming to end of this cycle so I wouldn't take anymore ai and just go into PCT in a few weeks and chalk this up to lesson learned.

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  • Fishmuscle
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Makwa thank you for your feedback and this link. Truly, lesson learned.

  • ryansolo's picture
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The way I figure mine out is by my libido. If I were you I'd lay off the aromasin until that comes back and then dose it very low daily. It shouldn't take long if you're running prop. What brand aromasin are you using?

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OK great, I appreciate your feedback. I'm using aromasin from a lab I haven't seen here on eroids. If you'd like to PM me I can give you the details. Not sure if this info is allowed in the open.

  • Armwrestlingfiend's picture
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  • Armwrestlingfiend
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You crashed your estrogen bro that’ll make you lose your libido. What is your ai protocol?

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  • Dacky
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Your libido is poor because your estrodial is 8!!! Are you taking an AI? How are you dosing your test e and test p? I mean how often are you pinning and what amounts?

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  • Fishmuscle
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  • @Dacky

I saw that I wanted to make sure I was reading this correctly. I have been dosing exemastane and I've honestly been all over the place with my dose trying to figure this stuff out by feel and without bloods has been a nightmare, lesson learned.

Any feed back on how long to lay off the AI before retesting?

Test E Sunday and Wednesday 1/2ml 150MG

Test P Monday Wed Fri 1/2ml 50MG

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At that dose of test I would be surprised if you even need an AI. Lay if for 2 weeks and retest. Oh and if you’re going to take Test Prop it’s EOD pins at a minimum of you won’t have stable test or estrodial levels so suggest you change your prop pinning schedule. Wonder why you just didn’t run a higher dose of enanthate given the lond cycle and long nature of EQ ester.

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  • Fishmuscle
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  • @Dacky

Got it. Thanks for your feedback Dacky.