+ 4 Shocking Blood Work
Started HCG/HMG a few days after last pin of test/primo-750 IU HCG and 75 HMG IU for the first week and then 150 IU HMG for the second week eod for 2 weeks leading up to the beginning of clomid 50/50/50/25 and nolvadex 25/25/25/17.5
I figured since I used HCG and HMG that I wouldn't need as much clomid/nolva because I break out very bad, get very tired, and feel sick when I am on it even at 50 mg. Apparently I was wrong....
This is my blood work a little bit after the 4th week. Disappointing.
I still have gonal F on hand and plenty of clomid/nolva and HCG.
Looking for some advice. Ideally looking for a solution with minimal clomid because of the negative side effects. My plan as of right now is 50 nolva and 50 clomid and restart HCG and gonal F but I'm not sure how to dose it at this point since I'm so shut down. Don't know if the HCG/HMG from hghpharma was any good/ or if i just under dosed my PCT...
Any help is much appreciated
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my SGPT was HIGH too at 57.. did your dr say anything about that? and is your test levels on here? thanks for sharing
no, and yes
from the hcg and hmg, shouldnt his lh and fsh be higher?
Yes, there is other bloodwork from this same source showing the hmg not working either. I forgot who posted it, but it's around if you search.
Also, can I just take my whole dose at night of clomid and nolva to minimize sides? Or split them up?
When I took the hcg and hmg I combined them in one pin, but I doubt that would make a difference....pretty sure it was just bunk. Hcg and hmg should have re started me I think
With levels that low either the lab messed up or your gear is fake.
I think I need a new pct source....any leads are appreciated as I feel like shit and want to get right asap
Holy shit... 25 years old and T level of 42!! Yikes!!!
I have cycled on and off for the past 5 years. In May , I had been off for 3 months , and my T was 526. I had to have surgery on my testicles for a varicose vein that was lowering my sperm motility .
After the surgery , the doc put me on clomid 50 mg 3xwk. I added OTC boosters such as zinc, arganine, caratine, fenugreek, zma before bed.
Had my test re-tested at 880. Felt great on that clomid. In fact, I have always felt good when taking clomid. IMO, the negative sides are way over hyped.
If I was you I would:
200 clomid for 3 days, followed by 100 clomid for 2 weeks, 50 for 2 weeks, then drop to 25 3xwk for a month .
I would only run the nolva for 2 week...IMO nolva makes me feel worse than clomid. Evey PCT as soon as I drop the nolva, boom instantly feel better. Aromasin 12.5 eod throughout.
No alcoholic drinks either.
Plenty of actual studies that show long term clomid use in men has no negative sides, except can raise Estro since it raises T & LH/FSH .
Ps: who was your source for the gear and what dose did you run & for how long? Test/primo would be considered mild compounds ... Wonder if you maybe got something other than primo ?!? Maybe mast
Cycle was test 250 mg /wk and primo 750-1000 mg/ wk for 20 weeks. All Swole products for the most part. Only thing not Swole was the hcg and hmg, which was fr hgh pharma.
I also got gonal-f from hghpharma, would that further shut me down as well if I used at this point? Also I am pretty much out of aromasin as my pct was supposed to be done. Only arimidex left.....
Will increase clomid and nolva and re test.
Had the same surgery but he had me on 3000iu(yes 3000) of hcg eod and clomid 50mg eod.
Test levels got back to baseline which was mid 400 range and got wife preggo.
Nice, congrats ! I had the vericocle on both sides .. Not a fun time!! But I also got the wife preggo , pretty quick too. Once she made it out of the first tri-mester, I got the green light to run a cycle
so everyone is happy.
I wouldn't take the hcg. I tried a similar approach and found out that hcg will actually shut down natural test production. I would jump on aromasin/clomid/nolva of at least 12.5/50/40
rocketballzSo you did an hcg and hmg blast prior to starting clomid and nolva? If so, you likely have bunk meds. Always go pharma bro. Try a reboot at clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolvadex 40/40/20/20...for a month. Think about adding ostarine at 15-20mgs day throughout pct but do ur own research. If you need a reliable pharma source for pct meds shoot me a pm. You're still shut down hard bro with no LH and FSH activity at all.
Yes I blasted first then started clomid and nolva. I need a new source lol and my clomid and nolva should be good, it's from Swole. Hcg and hmg are from hghpharma.... I'm hoping they will chime in on this
Yikes you have to be feeling like absolute shit. I would def start blasting that clomid and nolva for several more weeks then Re test. What clomid and Nolvadex do yiu have?