I'm also having the same issue with some test p that I bought last summer. I dont leave the vials on their side and I use a 25g to draw. Anyone else having this issue?
I had this same problem with titans vials. I was using 18 g to draw and everytime it was tearing the rubber which went into the solution. I changed it to a 21 gauge draw and moved my draw spots and never had a problem after that.
Not dissolved but falling apart from multiple pinning, I just brought this up in the group forum and I agree with the sentiment below, they look cool but the practicality isn't there so from the next restock on and part of this restock, we're returning to the 20mm
hit me up in dm, we'll get you situated
I really like his gear but not so much the tiny hard rubber stoppers . Looks cool , but they do seem like they would break apart easy . Do you pin in the same spot of the stopper everytime you go to draw ? I try not to pin the same spot and it seems to work .
I’ve worried about this happening, pharmacy fills my draw up 18g when I poke through I hold my breath every time knowing it’s eventually going to happen.. Is this considered a loss?? Is it not sterile now?? Thanks
Pharmacies will sometimes give TRT patients 18g for drawing with their Test C prescription. Most bodybuilders literally know more than many doctors when it comes to needle sizes for drawing and injecting Test.
You realize i am on trt? Lol! And anyone using an 18 because theyre too cheap or uneducated to spend 15$ for 100--23ga pins. Well here is the wakeup call. Im not a brsiniac...i draw and pin with the same 25 without issue.
So someone errs and talks about melting when in the picture its "pin" shaped. Hopefully its cleared up.
Lol shots fired my natty maxd out weight was 165 following my athletic directors training program for Warwick SH soccer (09-11) two years of solid lifting and training got me nowhere
After our athletic director “Doc” got caught and arrested for embezzlement.. training went down hill , we went to states in 2009 after that it was downhill, no doubt me and the boys were more apt to skip last period and find ourselves doing everything but legs of course (;
I would think a loss. Now some would say just filter the oil but I just would get a new vial. Yea you can't take a chance of using oil if pieces of rubber debris are floating around regardless if it does no harm. I have a few of their vials which I like but I never saw a stopper that damn small lol
I don't know if it's sterile now or not. But I do know that it can't be healthy to inject pieces of rubber stopper into your body.
There are filtered needles for preventing glass particles from drawing from glass Amps. I would at least use a filter needle to draw from OP's vial.
It is worth noting that 10mL vials for TRT get the stoppers stabbed/worn way more than than when on cycle and drawing up larger dosages per stab. Stoppers can only be stabbed so many times before they're no longer a safe barrier.
This happened to me years ago with another brand. I was using 18g needles to draw up my pins then switching to 23g needle to pin. The 18g were just too big and made the stopper come apart.
Titans has new clear stoppers made out of a different material now. I know this because I got some in a recent order and Uncle talked about it on his discussion page.
See the Tren E and Mast P support Ukraine label vials? They have the new stoppers that are clear. The Mast E in the back has the old stopper like in your pic.
Still message Uncle about that vial you got there.
I've had the clear Silicone stoppers come apart extremely easy. I've even had clear silicone stoppers inside the needle because the needle literally cut a hole into the stopper as I pushed it thru and that was only a 22g. I will not use any gear with the clear silicone stoppers. Also you need to be careful if your allergic to silicone. Hope it works out better for Unc Yoked, but I'd def pay close attention to those.
I'll be honest, this is not one of those allergies I even considered.
The silicone stoppers are probably less durable to physical damage than the butyl, they're only more resistant to corrosive chemicals and not really necessary on most products.
I will pay close attention. It's too early for me to give feedback on the new clear stoppers from Titans. I draw with 23g and pin with 25g. I will provide feedback in time, probaly on the discussion page. So far everything has been good for me with the old and new stoppers from Titans.
Is that right? Interesting. These stoppers are so new that folks really haven't dealt with them. Yea it is silicon. Well, there's always going to be a flaw to everything. But like you said allergies are the major concern
There's another fairly new src that has these clear stoppers also. I have a few of their vials and they look way better than the normal stoppers in my opinion. Probably function better too
Uncle said the material the new stoppers are made of are more resistant to longterm corrosion or something. I would have to search his discussion comments to repeat what he said verbatim.
when I examined that new srcs vials, the stopper was the fist thing I noticed. Stopper was definitely made of something different. Reason is probably because of super solvents dissolving rubber stoppers to some degree
Yes! Solvents can eat away at some stoppers. Always store vials standing upright. The same with pin plungers...if you let gear sit in a pin for a few days the plunger will swell from the solvents.
I'm also having the same issue with some test p that I bought last summer. I dont leave the vials on their side and I use a 25g to draw. Anyone else having this issue?
hit me up bro, we'll get it fixed for you.
Maybe I should just special out all these 13mm, they suck balls
I usually use 21g to draw but I'll switch to 23g for my titan vials.
I had this same problem with titans vials. I was using 18 g to draw and everytime it was tearing the rubber which went into the solution. I changed it to a 21 gauge draw and moved my draw spots and never had a problem after that.
Not dissolved but falling apart from multiple pinning, I just brought this up in the group forum and I agree with the sentiment below, they look cool but the practicality isn't there so from the next restock on and part of this restock, we're returning to the 20mm
hit me up in dm, we'll get you situated
I really like his gear but not so much the tiny hard rubber stoppers . Looks cool , but they do seem like they would break apart easy . Do you pin in the same spot of the stopper everytime you go to draw ? I try not to pin the same spot and it seems to work .
Do you draw up outside the tiny little circle as well? Thanks
I stay inside the circle . Just try to hit a fresh spot every time
AnonI will stab anywhere on the stopper.
Thanks dude
I agree, time to scrap those 13mm for man sized vials.
RustyhookerDissolved doesnt sound possible given he doesnt use the super solvents. What size pin? Sorry...just sounds trippy. Hope it gets figured out
Anonbear_jew send @UncleYoked a friend invite and talk in private message about this issue. He will probaly send you a new vial.
I’ve worried about this happening, pharmacy fills my draw up 18g when I poke through I hold my breath every time knowing it’s eventually going to happen.. Is this considered a loss?? Is it not sterile now?? Thanks
RustyhookerNever draw with an 18.
Rules of roidclub
Took endos advice without consulting my table.. she feels my left nip and tells me “it’s going away”
Only ever draw 23 g
RustyhookerSmart! Contact source and see how it goes. Hes pretty cool
AnonPharmacies will sometimes give TRT patients 18g for drawing with their Test C prescription. Most bodybuilders literally know more than many doctors when it comes to needle sizes for drawing and injecting Test.
RustyhookerYou realize i am on trt? Lol! And anyone using an 18 because theyre too cheap or uneducated to spend 15$ for 100--23ga pins. Well here is the wakeup call. Im not a brsiniac...i draw and pin with the same 25 without issue.
So someone errs and talks about melting when in the picture its "pin" shaped. Hopefully its cleared up.
High five
AnonI've experienced it firsthand. 18g needles can cut tiny holes in stoppers and leave pieces of stopper in the vial.
Also, livestock pins sometimes have a coating inside the needle, and it will leave a milky white substance if pushed back into the vial.
RustyhookerThe old silicone stoppers long ago seemed really cool. Til you could see it would melt with super solvents or leak even with small pins. Lol!
AnonI'm not sure what the new clear stoppers Titans is using are made of.
Tell me more about the good ole days
RustyhookerIn the good old days the average first timer was maxed out natty.
Lol shots fired my natty maxd out weight was 165 following my athletic directors training program for Warwick SH soccer (09-11) two years of solid lifting and training got me nowhere
RustyhookerSoccor is fun shit but burns tons of calories. My old coach said choose 1. Then muscle was easier to put on. I do miss playing still
After our athletic director “Doc” got caught and arrested for embezzlement.. training went down hill , we went to states in 2009 after that it was downhill, no doubt me and the boys were more apt to skip last period and find ourselves doing everything but legs of course (;
I would think a loss. Now some would say just filter the oil but I just would get a new vial. Yea you can't take a chance of using oil if pieces of rubber debris are floating around regardless if it does no harm. I have a few of their vials which I like but I never saw a stopper that damn small lol
Much like everything else, it looks bigger is Rustys hands.
I agree, scrap it
LMAO..I love the size of the vial but not the size of the stopper. But I love what's in the vial even more lolol. Keep up the good work my man
AnonI don't know if it's sterile now or not. But I do know that it can't be healthy to inject pieces of rubber stopper into your body.
There are filtered needles for preventing glass particles from drawing from glass Amps. I would at least use a filter needle to draw from OP's vial.
It is worth noting that 10mL vials for TRT get the stoppers stabbed/worn way more than than when on cycle and drawing up larger dosages per stab. Stoppers can only be stabbed so many times before they're no longer a safe barrier.
Right on.. great info, guess better to be prepared than to be left scything through old forum posts.
bighulk3012I second what everyone is saying. Looks used and like you used a larger gauge to draw with. I use 23g to draw and 25g to inject. Never any issues
I always draw with 23 g
bighulk3012Weird idk then, that’s never happened to me before.
AnonSame. 23g drawing, 25 pinning.
AnonThis happened to me years ago with another brand. I was using 18g needles to draw up my pins then switching to 23g needle to pin. The 18g were just too big and made the stopper come apart.
Titans has new clear stoppers made out of a different material now. I know this because I got some in a recent order and Uncle talked about it on his discussion page.
See the Tren E and Mast P support Ukraine label vials? They have the new stoppers that are clear. The Mast E in the back has the old stopper like in your pic.
Still message Uncle about that vial you got there.
JuicedAggressionI've had the clear Silicone stoppers come apart extremely easy. I've even had clear silicone stoppers inside the needle because the needle literally cut a hole into the stopper as I pushed it thru and that was only a 22g. I will not use any gear with the clear silicone stoppers. Also you need to be careful if your allergic to silicone. Hope it works out better for Unc Yoked, but I'd def pay close attention to those.
I'll be honest, this is not one of those allergies I even considered.
The silicone stoppers are probably less durable to physical damage than the butyl, they're only more resistant to corrosive chemicals and not really necessary on most products.
AnonI will pay close attention. It's too early for me to give feedback on the new clear stoppers from Titans. I draw with 23g and pin with 25g. I will provide feedback in time, probaly on the discussion page. So far everything has been good for me with the old and new stoppers from Titans.
Is that right? Interesting. These stoppers are so new that folks really haven't dealt with them. Yea it is silicon. Well, there's always going to be a flaw to everything. But like you said allergies are the major concern
There's another fairly new src that has these clear stoppers also. I have a few of their vials and they look way better than the normal stoppers in my opinion. Probably function better too
I have two vials of that as well, overall quality and hardness, seems to keep its integrity throughout my entire cycle without degrading one bit ..
Absolutely. Yea I like them. Lol watch alot of srcs switch to them
AnonUncle said the material the new stoppers are made of are more resistant to longterm corrosion or something. I would have to search his discussion comments to repeat what he said verbatim.
when I examined that new srcs vials, the stopper was the fist thing I noticed. Stopper was definitely made of something different. Reason is probably because of super solvents dissolving rubber stoppers to some degree
AnonYes! Solvents can eat away at some stoppers. Always store vials standing upright. The same with pin plungers...if you let gear sit in a pin for a few days the plunger will swell from the solvents.
100%. That's why I always store my gear upright. Now b/a and b/b aren't as harsh like EO and other solvents, but I don't take that chance. Good point
AnonI believe glass Amps if stored properly will outlast any vial with a stopper.